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[–] absolutefuckinidiot@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would love to live somewhere like China, Vietnam or Cuba having spent some time in and experienced a bit of all three. Lovely countries with lovely people. That being said I feel like it’s my duty to hash it out in my home country of Canada. Unless stuff really goes to shit and I have to escape on asylum or something for my political views I want to do my best to try and contribute to improve things in my community.

For much of my life I’ve dreamed of moving away to almost anywhere else from the frozen backwater I call home but as I’ve gotten older I’m more invested in trying to get stuck in there and be involved in shit and contributing to positive change.

[–] SpaceDogs@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 year ago

You just voiced all of my thoughts. I’m also Canadian and even though I’ve thought of leaving many times I know I can’t, not only because moving is expensive but I also believe it is my duty to stay.

Until, like you said, I am forced to leave; whether that’s due to war or having my citizenship revoked and being deported I will remain and do my best to improve the lives of the people here.

Also, the snow doesn’t bother me as much as others, and I honestly can’t imagine winter without it.

[–] Valbrandur@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes. Three problems:

  1. Language barrier for 4/5 of them
  2. One I speak the language of, but the climate is unbearable to me.
  3. As developing countries that AES states are, those that have the same profession as me have overall worse living standards than in my part of the world.

I am going to move anyway, but not to a socialist country (for now).

[–] Skipper1402@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Valbrandur@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Scandinavia, most likely Sweden.

Edit: lmao at the downvote

[–] RedPandaRedGuard@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 1 year ago

Of course. Cuba would be great, my only issue is that I'm not too fond of high temperatures like in the Caribbean. But that will be a problem in the future anyway.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 1 year ago

The only thing keeping me in the west are my elderly parents who don't want to move anywhere. Otherwise, I would be living in China right now. I absolutely do want to make the move at some point though, and have been learning Mandarin in the meantime.

[–] AlbigensianGhoul@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 1 year ago

I'd probably only do it for survival reasons or temporarily for learning. I've considered moving a lot in my life (specially fooled by brain drain Western propaganda), but the whole process is too costly and risky, and doesn't help make my country a better place.

If I get the conditions to afford moving elsewhere, I would also likely have the conditions to live a comfortable life or try to make a change here.

But it's always good to learn some Chinese and Spanish as backup ;)

[–] Imnecomrade@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I plan to fight for revolution in the US until it is too dangerous and the revolution turns out to not likely succeed. I am already working towards becoming a candidate member with PSL. Because I want to be a computer hardware engineer working in the semiconductor industry, China may be my best option. This is why I am going back to school next year to get my bachelor's--so I have a viable Plan B just in case.

[–] kig_v2@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 year ago

To echo some Canucks below, I would probably realistically not leave unless it was all-but guaranteed fruitless death to not, in which case it'd be a toss up between Mexico and Cuba. I have grown attached to the USA, all my friends and family are here, and I feel an overwhelming sense of duty to foment revolution here. I would love to visit and experience AES countries, though, and I am encouraging my friend to move to China because his genius lies in highly developed fields, his contribution to humanity would be best actualized there.

[–] Hyperlich@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 year ago

Every day I daydream about moving to China. There are too many barriers to making that dream a reality though. I wouldn't want to make my SO feel isolated and illiterate. If only there was a socialist country that primarily spoke English.

[–] Addfwyn@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I have spent some time in a couple of them, and a possible future career option is actually a transfer to China. It is part of the reason I took the job I have now. I have been studying chinese specifically in case that pans out.

I am sure there would be considerable adjustments, I have lived most of my life in Japan at this point, but I would definitely welcome the opportunity.

[–] Skipper1402@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

May I ask what do you do for a living?

[–] Addfwyn@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 year ago

I work in hospitality IT, probably not a field I would generally recommend to most people normally but the head regional offices for Asia are located in China.

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[–] Laguna700@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No. Our mission as Marxism-Leninist is to do the revolution in ours countries. Go to live to a socialist country is a bad option to do that.

[–] Valbrandur@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Our mission as Marxists-Leninists is to aid the worldwide expansion of communism and to defend the interests of the working class. There's nothing written forbidding you from crossing borders.

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[–] ButtigiegMineralMap@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have no hope for the US, I would leave in less than a minute if given the opportunity, but moving out of the US is expensive, you need to pay a heavy fine just to denounce your citizenship. And that’s like not even step one of moving.

[–] Ronin_5@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have tried during covid. I was told you have to be a Chinese national to apply.

[–] kig_v2@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not necessarily, from what I understand having a very important job or education is a gateway.

[–] Ronin_5@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 year ago

No, that’s what I was specifically told by the recruiter. I was perfectly qualified for the job, even a bit over-qualified.

[–] Sinister@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

Yes I got to china through my uni.

[–] Rasm635u@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Skipper1402@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Rasm635u@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Skipper1402@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why that one particularly?

[–] Rasm635u@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bc it's easier to learn Spanish than Mandarin

[–] comrade_coyotl@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Cuban Spanish is its own beast, I think it’s like speaking California-American English to a person with a thick Scottish accent, you kinda have to slow down a bit until you get used to it. Source: am a Mexican native Spanish speaker who’s traveled to Cuba.

[–] Rasm635u@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago (5 children)

California-American English

I don't know what that sounds like bc I am from Denmark

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[–] cayde6ml@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Part of me still wants to stay and fight in the U.S., but more and more I believe that its the equivalent of trying to stop a tsunami with a riot shield. And I feel incredibly guilty for feeling this way, but I am hoping/planning to permanently move to China one day.

Every single day in the U.S. is like gambling with your life. I don't want to suffer and die in this fascist shithole, and I know that I can still help people no matter where I go. But I feel that I owe it to my family and my SO to get us to a better and safer place.

[–] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

incredibly guilty for feeling this way

If it makes you slightly less guilty, the US is actively suppressing any opposition (see the Black Panther Party).

[–] cayde6ml@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago

I know that, but I always believe in standing up and fighting.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Nah. I'm right where I need to be.

[–] big_spoon@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago

why would i do that if i can make my own country socialist? if the idea was just living in AES, i just move to another place

[–] benoit@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

As a naive 20 y/o I "moved" to China and lived there for two years.

It really didn't feel like communism at all...

It really didn’t feel like communism at all…

makes sense because no country in existence has achieved communism

[–] bastion@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All it takes is one person to break trust, and lie about it. "You must do this for the motherland/community/people" etc.

It can be a good thing if the imperative originates from an honest person, but it can be very bad if it originates from a dishonest one or from a collective misunderstanding.

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