Once again, I'll believe it when I see it.
I've long since lost any hope of real consequences.
this post was submitted on 03 Oct 2023
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This has really brought to light just how broken our legal system is. It's not even remotely just Trump, it's virtually everyone with money and/or power.
Elon Musk straight up directly helped protect the offensive military assets of an enemy nation during their ongoing, unprovoked invasion of a country ours is fully invested in protecting, and nothing happened.
Fun fact: It's not just the legal system. It's kind of fucking everything. Corruption is everywhere. It's progressively gotten worse over the decades while not enough people cared to do anything about it. Now we have campaign finance shenanigans, lobbying tomfoolery, citizens united ruling, regulatory capture all over, the first trillion dollar company and numerous other oligopolies. Here in the good ol' US of A, it's Dollar Über Alles.
It's not everywhere. You don't have to bribe/tip your doctor or your police.
But yes, in higher levels there's a lot. I'd still say less than half of Congress is explicitly compromised.
We're far from the bottom, but also far from where we should be. This police problem should be first on the list.
you don't have to tip your doctor because he's already bending you over anyway
not enough people cared to do anything about it
And still don't
Elon Musk straight up directly helped protect the offensive military assets of an enemy nation during their ongoing, unprovoked invasion of a country ours is fully invested in protecting, and nothing happened.
I think the problem there might be that we don't actually have a law prohibiting that yet (probably because until recently, it wasn't possible for one guy to have the power to do that sort of thing in the first place). We apparently need one, but we can't do anything about the Musk incident because of the whole "ex post facto" thing.
I’m assuming that because his network is carrying what the US would consider classified information, he (and his involved employees) have clearances and have signed those great NDAs that will send you to prison for violating them.
I’d be interested to see an infosec audit of the top offices.
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Yes. Furthermore it seems if you’ve ever held office, been a director, worn a uniform or robe your invincible. Unless you did the right thing. I’m sure you get punished for having integrity.
You can thank a single, unnamed, person in 1874 for that. Congress passed section 1983 of the Federal Code in 1871. They included a 16 word clause that the person entrusted to copy the Congressional Record into the Federal Register illegally omitted. This clause became the focal point of Harlow V Fitzgerald in 1982. Because the 1982 SCOTUS didn't bother checking the Congressional Record, because why would they, the entire argument that allowed Qualified Immunity revolves around the missing clause. Had they had they original text, they wouldn't have ruled the way they did.
Got more details on this missing clause? I'd like to learn more.
The consequences haven't been fully enforced yet, but I'm cautiously optimistic about this one. He's already been found guilty of fraud and there's already an order from the judge to dissolve Trump Org and all presence in NY - hotels, golf courses, businesses, etc. The rest of the trial is just "how much of an additional fine does Trump need to pay?"
Of course, there will be appeals and it's possible the verdict gets overturned. Still, it's a promising direction.
So like, if I was a defendant in a civil case, and if I tried a fraction of the bullshit he’s pulled in the context of this particular trial alone, I’d be thrown in jail for contempt of court faster than you can say “hamberder”.
I am waiting for the judge to throw the book at him, but I’m honestly not expecting it.
hamberder eh?
Perhaps they meant covfefe.
"We have to look at the oranges!"
"fold like a stack of cards" 🤔
If we hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominoes should fall like a house of cards.
Checkmate
King me.
Go fish.
Bingo
Yatzhee!
I lost the game
"If we hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominoes should fall like a house of cards. Checkmate." -Zapp Brannigan
Imagine having a deck of cards. Now try to fold them. Slow and difficult right?
That's the analogy.
The rich never get convicted.
That is why the civil trial to take away his riches is going first before all his criminal trials.
Can a stack of cards get so tall that the bit at the top escapes Earth's gravity?
Or does it just take like... most of a decade to fall?
The effects of gravity drop at the distance squared. I believe it technically is felt up to the very edge of the universe (if there is one) or infinity. At a more reasonable scale, it would only be if the card got close enough to fall into another bodies gravity well than the Earth's that it wouldn't fall back to earth. That'd be a house of cards somewhere around 300k-350k km high.
Cheers. I am very rusty on most of that stuff.
The children's book "the emperor's new clothes" is so unrealistic who would ever buy into that kind of delusional thinking?
Meanwhile all the people that have been suckered by this guy despite all the evidence that he is just a con man...
That book was banned due to nudity.
Salon is the liberal version of Brietbart; never trust any analysis that they have.
Eh ... We'll see.
Real justice works slowly. I hope this is it.
I hate that though. Like, yes I want justice to be thorough, but working slowly has not seemingly worked well enough for this country. Too much time to do damage.
former prosecuter
Exactly, which makes the comments perfectly apropos.
Checkmate.
Feels like what they told Reagon in the first CIA briefing...,"The Soviet Union will fall like a deck of cards, because it is a deck of cards."
Granted, it did fall. All it took was for the US and USSR to race each other towards bankruptcy and for the USSR to win.
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A blue tie?!? WTF
a TAN SUIT ???
It's goin' down, I'm yellin' timber
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