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[–] zephyreks@lemmy.ml 41 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Given that the US can't even keep its barracks on American soil in decent condition, I guess it's no surprise that they have no environmental protections abroad...

[–] Dashi@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Hmm, what do you mean by this? And any proof/citations? When i was in the Baracks were old but immaculate.

[–] zephyreks@lemmy.ml 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] Dashi@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2023/09/20/poor-oversight-leaves-military-barracks-in-dire-condition-report-says/

Is the article that your link refrences. Yeah, i mean i agree with it those are not great mold/broken pipes. But it wasn't meant to be a 5 star resort either. I spent 2 years stationed at Marine Corps Base Hawaii in a barracks that couldn't be torn down because it was a historical monument because it had bullet holes from ww2. Shit sucked. None of the barracks i lived in had security cameras back in 2010. We had a couple guys in duty that roamed the area. We didn't have heaters because we were stained in a area that didn't need them. I don't know what the current standards are.

[–] zephyreks@lemmy.ml 4 points 11 months ago

Yeah that's fair. I admit I don't have first-hand experience, but I also wouldn't be surprised if things have degraded significantly in the past decade.

[–] rodolfo@lemmy.world -4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

don't ask for proof, without giving any. you're bound to be asked to deliver yourself.

[–] Dashi@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

My proof is 5 years of service in the military spending every Thursday cleaning for 4-5 hours for field day inspection where the higher ups go through the barracks on Friday to make sure they are clean.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Your bedsheets being folded accurate to the micron doesn't mean that you aren't dumping hydrazine in the river.

[–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Do you have any idea how strictly inforced and followed hazmat regulations are in the military? They'd fine the unit thousands if a single glove with fuel on it wasn't disposed of properly. Inspections are frequent and random.

Quit your bullshit we weren't dumping chemicals into a water supply, could barely throw our napkins away without asking LS2 for a plastic bag and a marker jfc.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If they're so strictly enforced then how does this happen? Were you applying the same standards in Afghanistan?

Add to that various stuff you did in the past and don't want to clean up. Ramstein is drenched in PFAS. Pacific Islands are drenched in radioactivity and Agent Orange.

[–] callouscomic@lemm.ee 14 points 11 months ago

Awesome. So instead of simply having the taliban, now they can enjoy the taliban AND environmental degradation.

/s

[–] appel@whiskers.bim.boats 8 points 11 months ago

Harrowing reading. Once again, the US' callous disregard for human life is obvious

[–] deft@ttrpg.network 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

TBH I struggle to worry for Afghanistan. That country has a terrible culture and while we can criticize the US here, that place was not and has not been fine for a very long time.

[–] zephyreks@lemmy.ml -4 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Oh gee I sure wonder why

Surely it couldn't have been impacted by a twenty-year occupation, right? Surely not.

[–] deft@ttrpg.network 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No absolutely not.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacha_bazi

While this might be controversial Afghanistan and a lot of other places in the world do actually need foreign policing and a forceful cultural change.

Not saying how we make the change or what it becomes but some places are so ass.

[–] zephyreks@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago

So? Doesn't mean that American occupation of Afghanistan hasn't delayed their social and economic development by at least two decades (and probably far more).

[–] TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It was just paradise before then huh

[–] zephyreks@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 months ago

Ah yes, because a 20-year occupation couldn't possibly make anything worse.

[–] wito@lemmy.techtailors.net 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah the Russian invasion before didn't help either.

[–] zephyreks@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 months ago

Afghanistan's been catching shit left and right and they get no break lol