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How does Firefox fail you at tabs? I've always been happy with it, I sandbox my FB and Google social stuff, Save groups for opening at once, share tabs across devices, I don't want for anything.

Idk what people have about chromium tabs. Firefox does tabs just fine.

Also, edge does not come with most os, just w*ndows

Why not use Edge, which comes with the OS?

lol

Not with any of my OSes.

Using edge is probably a bigger offense than using chrome.

Inertia. For years: IE sucked and Mozilla was painfully slow and missing features. I know it’s been quite a few years since that was a thing, but people don’t like to change, so I really think it’s still leftover behavior.

Or at least it is for me, but I’m mostly in the Apple ecosystem now, so it’s not as relevant

My computer doesn't come with edge

I go out of my way to purge Edge from Windows every time it works it's way back in no matter what registry edits I have to make, what Windows "features" it breaks or whatever script I have to write.

Edge is like having a roommate constantly hitting on you and occasionally withholding things from you when you reject them and you're basically over here going "They're already living with you, why not go with them instead of hooking up with someone from outside"

Chrome is ethically questionable admittedly at best, but Edge is straight up cancer.

Yes unfortunately I've found chromium is just much better than Firefox when it comes to tabs. It's at least a step removed from Chrome.

Chrome was pretty good and somewhat faster than FF for a while in the oughts. At least it felt that way, and Google didn't seem so evil at the time. My guess is people go with chrome out of inertia

I started using Chrome instead of IE11, which was crap for standards, and before Edge was a thing. When Edge came along, I got really ticked off by the constant nagging to use it, which made me hate it without even trying it. I will probably carry on with Chrome for now, whist I can still turn off all the ad tracking stuff.

There are Tab Groups add-ons for Firefox. I’m sure there might be vertical tab add-ons, too.

As someone who never went to Chrome, I’m just sitting here trying not to be all “I told you so!” from when Chrome started to really take off a decade ago.

My understanding is that Google pays Firefox to use Google as the default search engine, which they also pay Apple for the same, so it's a win-win situation and unlikely Google would ever do such (especially since Chrome is already the dominant browser for user base)

To stop supporting Firefox would be begging for antitrust investigation (if not in the US then in the EU). Plus Mozilla would probably find another sponsor so all they'd be doing is draw attention to themselves. If it were a large piece of the marketshare at stake I could see it but Firefox is currently at 3-5% (depending on who you ask) so it's not even worth the aggravation.

I personally use librewolf. Firefox is making it look like they are private, but you need to tweak a lot of settings to get there

Google doesn't track everything. The browser determines your interests locally; the only information shared with Google (and advertisers) is which broad topics you've recently shown an interest in.

Hmm, not having read up on the tech, what's stopping someone from making a Firefox plugin that just spoofs fake data back? It's all done client side if I'm understanding, so everything necessary to do so must be available. Only wrinkle I could see is if they have signing and ship the cert with Chrome and regularly rotate it. It's still not impossible in that case, just more annoying.