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[–] SrEstegosaurio@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)
[–] thervingi@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago
[–] lisko@sopuli.xyz -3 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] SrEstegosaurio@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

No? That really depends on the person who's traveling. Saying that all tourist are obnoxious is a fallacy.

[–] lisko@sopuli.xyz -3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What? Saying that saying that is a fallacy is a fallacy

[–] SrEstegosaurio@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I may have worded my comment erroneously. What I was trying to say is that not all tourist have to be, by definition bad people.

[–] lisko@sopuli.xyz -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You are right and they aren't "bad people", they are just annoying ;)

[–] SrEstegosaurio@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

Hmmm, most of them? Probably, (I live in a touristic place.) but not all. We can't just generalise.

[–] coldhotman@nrsk.no 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Depends on what the end goals are. If it is to generate tourism, of course.

And what do you mean by "evil"?

[–] d1tt0@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

My guess here is β€œevil” is the ecological impact of travel. High CO2 outputs from aircraft and prolonged automobile travel.

The rebuttal is: take lower carbon impact travel options.

IMO, traveling is inevitable and, maybe, necessary. There are few other ways to experience a culture and understand a people without it.

[–] SrEstegosaurio@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

My guess here is β€œevil” is the ecological impact of travel. High CO2 outputs from aircraft and prolonged automobile travel.

But that's a problem related to transportation in general. Not due to tourism. Aside from that we really need to switch out current ways of transportation to better, safer and clean ones.

[–] blkpws@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

But a country based on tourism is normally lacking a lot of support for their civilians.

Some countries try to seduce a lot of tourism making it a mess on local places, a lot of dirty, scams and drunk people (depends on which place).

An economy based on tourism is always bad for many, multiple things, like any future new pandemic or animals and insects invading places where they don't have predators.

[–] SrEstegosaurio@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I live in one of those countries. I can confirm. Also not having a diverse economy can be a a big trouble. Obviusly an economy purely based on tourism would suck. But that does not make tourism itself bad. Traveling is an enriching experience.

Edit: fixed a typo.

[–] d1tt0@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)
[–] marmulak@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

It may be necessary for some economies, but otherwise it's also inevitable. At the very least it must be tolerated

[–] frippa@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

I live in a big tourist area and american/German tourists are the stereotype you imagine them to be

[–] VinesNFluff@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Tourism isn't evil.

Tourism-centric economies that ignore the needs of local population to serve tourists and make money (... Therefore Capitalism) is evil. Car/plane centric infrastructure that greatly increases CO2 production (.... Therefore CapitalismΒ²) is evil.

Travel and tourism are, in and of themselves, positive and enriching, if you somehow divorce them from said capitalist forces.

[–] SudoDnfDashY@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

Yeah. Tourists are annoying, and can kill your culture. But they pay the bills.