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Saikou - the best Anime streaming app on Android - got DMCA'd (sh.itjust.works)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by newIdentity@sh.itjust.works to c/piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com

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Even the Discord and Buymeacoffee page got taken down. This is larger than any other DMCA I know of

Edit: even the Telegram has been nuked. Yup, Telegram

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[–] QuazarOmega@lemy.lol 112 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yet another reminder that GitHub is not your friend, but also that borderline projects shouldn't be hosted on anyone else's server other than your own, you'll possess all the repository data, but you'll also be made to shut down anyway if on the clearnet, so I wonder if it's possible to host a forge through Tor/i2p or others.

Still, this is clearly wrong on who sent the DMCA, the apps never host the content, I hope they can get back up.

[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 48 points 1 year ago

Exactly GitHub is owned by Microsoft

[–] qfjp@lemmy.one 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

there are already many forges hosted through i2p, I imagine the same can be said for tor. That doesn't mean the host can't ban you there as well though.

[–] poplargrove@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unlike three-letter agencies I dont think the copyright holders of some anime will be able to figure out who hosts you if youre behind tor.

Not that I think putting a repository behind tor would be a good idea when it comes to ease of use in submitting bug reports or contributions.

[–] qfjp@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago

i didn't necessarily mean copyright holders could find you, i just meant you're still at the mercy of the host (unless that host is you)

[–] Granixo@feddit.cl 49 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I doubt this is larger than when MegaUpload got DMCA'd.

But yes, it's pretty big.

[–] newIdentity@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I mean any Anime related app takedown

[–] dog@suppo.fi 46 points 1 year ago

Imo this is why big projects that are borderline like this should use github alternatives, preferably self hosted solutions. This was always going to happen.

[+] kadu@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (3 children)

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[–] newIdentity@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Maybe they changed something since I used it the last time when it came out but I find the UI to be horrible.

It's a Manga UI used for watching anime. I rather have a UI with beautiful animations. Saikou has one of the most beautiful UI I've ever seen in an app.

While I love Tachiyomi (J2K) as a Manga reader and I think it's the best one on any platform, it's not great as a Streaming app designed as a streaming app (I know Saikou isn't just a streaming app and you can also read Mangas in it, but I rather use Tachiyomi for that)

Edit: just checked it out. Nope still a Manga app UI for an anime streaming app with horrible discoverability and you can't switch between different sources easily. The sources are cool I guess, but I don't need those. You also can't add something on Anilist and automatically have it added to your "continue watching" list.

[–] Spacellary@reddthat.com 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Switching sources def isn't a single button thing, but it's only a few clicks using the Migrate option in the 3 dot menu, it will transfer the progress you had in the previous source and the Anilist/MAL tracking.

Since I use AniChart's website directly I never missed that part being in the app, but it would be cool too.

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[–] vox@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 year ago

cloudstream!

[–] Lewdiculous@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago

It absolutely is, the extensions are brilliant.

[–] nix@merv.news 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hopefully they had backups elsewhere. This is why piracy apps need to at least try a little to not make their github so obviously a piracy app.

I hope @MonetarySqueeze@lemmy.dbzer0.com updates reiverr to use open source movies from the blender studio for the images/gifs so it can be passed off as a media app for non piracy related streaming

[–] newIdentity@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It was pretty popular and had thousands of stars. It even trended on GitHub

So this was pretty much unavoidable.

[–] _number8_@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

why is the DMCA the one area the government has apparently unlimited power and resources

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 year ago

It's frequently laywers and companies appeasing them, not the government.

[–] Klystron@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Just use aniyomi, it's not locked to anilist

[–] newIdentity@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

But I like Anilist. And the UI and features of Saikou

The UI of Tachiyomi isn't made for Anime. It's a Manga app and it's great for that, but it's horrible for Anime

[–] Klystron@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It has anilist too, that's what I use. I had never even heard of saikou before so haven't used it but I've never had any issues with aniyomi. It's perfectly functional in finding anything I want to watch and looks good. Can't do anything about your subjective preferences though.

[–] newIdentity@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Just that Saikou isn't just an anime streaming app. It's also an Anilist client. And it's beautiful and I love the animations and video player features like a skip intro button and it's generally just beautiful. You also can read Manga with it, but I honestly prefer Tachiyomi for that.

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[–] newIdentity@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

Just try it. I backed it up. But you need to have an AniList account since it uses Anilist's API for a lot of features:

https://1drv.ms/u/s!AqwI_W0TvdXTh_8MwtVgL24_yBzNLA

[–] Ian00@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The dev of Saikou made an announcement on the Discord about this

[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

What the deuce is Chouten? I could not find a thing about it

[–] newIdentity@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Lol. Somebody reposted my post on reddit: reddit.com/r/animepiracy/comments/16v4jru/saikou_the_best_anime_streaming_app_on_android/

I don't mind at all and am kinda happy.

[–] unsaid0415@szmer.info 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Man when they finally git repo federation will be available...

[–] tja@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What is git repo federation? Why will this help?

I thought git is a very decentralized technology?

[–] unsaid0415@szmer.info 16 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Well, Git is still centralized. Typically there's only one main location where work on a project happens - a Git forge like GitHub, or in the simplest scenario just an SSH server.

Federation will help because it will allow working on a project in one forge from another forge. You could e.g. create a pull request on your own self-hosted forge (e.g. Forgejo instance) and then submit that pull request on another forge that's hosted somewhere else. GitHub taking down a repo wouldn't be as annoying, since people would still have the main sources of their pull requests in their own forges. And GitHub wouldn't be able to remove their fork for whatever reason.

[–] lukas@lemmy.haigner.me 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I believe that Git is decentralized. Because people choose to use Git hosting services doesn't make Git itself centralized. Git doesn't force you to sign up on GitHub, GitLab or Bitbucket. You can use git-appraise to get decentralized code reviews. You can use git-bug to get decentralized issue tracking. You can always send maintainers patches with the built-in send-email command as GitHub/GitLab/... require an email address either way. You can always clone and push the repository somewhere else. Most (self-hosted) Git hosting services provide an automated migration procedure for issues, discussions, etc.

[–] tja@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

But that is already possible right now? Using a git forge is only a convention to make life easier, not something coming from git itself. You can have as many remotes as you like.

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Like Git x activityPub 🤔 seems doable, or where would be problems? Just something like pipeline, which creates an activity post including the commits🤔🤔

[–] QuazarOmega@lemy.lol 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not smart enough to understand it, but maybe these sites can help you see how they're doing it:

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Forgefed looks very good, I’ll test that out 😃

[–] NightAuthor@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Reminds me of this defcon talk https://youtu.be/rimtaSgGz_4?si=9uYFYGxFYA3KI0Es

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[–] newIdentity@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

Gitea already has that.

[–] Ascend910@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Any fork?

[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 18 points 1 year ago

I think all were also dmca’d

https://github.com/github/dmca/blob/master/2023/09/2023-09-20-corsearch.md

[–] nutbutter@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Question - What happens if we are hosting a Git repo ourselves, like using Gitea or something, and we receive a DMCA takedown request and we refuse? I mean, they can take down the domain, but what if weare hosting on a personal homeserver and keep changing domains whenever they take one down?

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Then it's your choice to comply, call their bluff, or do whatever you want. I've seen people who doxxed the DMCA sender and made threats towards the sending agent (the hoster was Russian).

Though best course of action would be to comply or ignore it, don't do what that guy did, best to keep quiet than to stir up trouble.

Outright refusal or ignoring it does come with the risk of litigation (threats can accelerate it or lead to prosecution) assuming you're within their jurisdiction.

[–] ninpnin@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 year ago (7 children)

They should upload the code on an .onion page

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[–] Fullest@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

Legally, you cannot refuse. DMCA is written such that the host must take down first and ask questions later.

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[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago

God damnit

[–] mexicancartel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can you link their telegram?

[–] newIdentity@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's gone

[–] mexicancartel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

There must be a username/t.me link which is used previously

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