Fediverse

Coming from Reddit, the very existence of this thread is a breath of fresh air. That there are mod logs at all to be able to document this, that there is a place where it can be posted that is not under control of the mods being criticized, is an enormous improvement over an unaccountable centralized platform.

Lemmy and Lemmygrad were originally run by the same team on the same server. They've moved to different hosting providers these days, but I guess the tankies are crossing the boundary.

.ml is fine for shitposts, but don't trust them on things like news and discussions if there's even a remote risk of (anti)communism being brought up.

I think this is bad for Lemmy as a whole, as a community but only due to misunderstanding and generalizations... People are going to equate the "censorship" on the server lemmy.ml as censorship on Lemmy, the platform/software. That is just NOT THE CASE. Please, whenever someone mentions lemmy.ml and its censorship or the likes, be fast to mention that that is a specific lemmy server and the beauty of lemmy is its decentralization and the fact that it is open source. There are plenty of other servers.

I fear that this kind of thing drives people away from Lemmy, when it should not.

Fuck these tankies man. I'm as leftist as they come and I HATE what these people are doing to the cause. We want healthcare and equal rights, and these loonies are dragging us all down with their fascination for those horrible fascist regimes (it takes 2 braincells to realize the CCP is 1984 incarnate).

Obviously a bit thin skinned, but IMO lemmy.ml can do what they want with their moderation. It is not anybody else's decision how they moderate, except of course keeping it legal.

Seems to me almost all those comments are somewhat offensive, for instance calling people tankies, claiming they should go back under their stone, and frequently use the word fuck, as if those are some sort of argument. I'm guessing rule 2 is something about not being rude. Personally I find that perfectly OK not to allow rude comments.

OP should "read the room" and terms better, then maybe they could have a proper debate.

PS:

Rule 2 of lemmy.ml includes: "Be respectful, especially when disagreeing. " Clearly that rule is ignored over and over again by the above user.

I'm shocked the statement that lemmy.ml can moderate as they want is in any way controversial, yet here we are, and this post has about a third downvotes.

It was always a tankie den. The Lemmy developers are very openly tankies.
They held their heads relatively low during the whole Reddit exodus, but that's about it.

Here are some examples: https://raddle.me/f/lobby/159606/is-lemmy-still-a-tankie-platform-or-are-there-actual

If that's true, the advantage of our decentralized Lemmy is: People could just ditch this instance and switch to a different one.

Hah I'm in that screenshot. I just caught my second ban for suggesting that mass deportation of children might qualify as genocide.

It's infuriating, because if you talk to actual survivors of genocide, they use words like "vigilance" and "never again." Meanwhile, tankies literally just want to gatekeep the word to protect their ability to simp for tyrants.

Always has been.

It's one of the reasons why lemmy never really took off until the great reddit migration despite having a decent software product.

Curious to see how this develops

tankies + fedidrama = classic lemmy

In typical internet fashion, rather than read these mod logs and decide who was right, I'm just going to say "down with the CCP" a bunch of times there and see if I get banned.

The creators are known to lean towards tankie rhetotic and I‘ve read they chose .ml because of Marx and Lenin before. That rose concerns from the beginning so it‘s hardly surprising a moderator there would do this. It is very concerning nonetheless and threatens to throw the creators‘ work into jeopardy because at that point you might as well use twixxer or whatever it‘s called now.

I had no idea what a tankie was until I read the comments here.

This is great news. It's their way if encouraging you to swap instances! You shouldn't stay on the main popular instance, it defeats the entire point of decentralization.

Fascists aren't morally healthy humans. Authoritarians can't cope with social reality, where different people can have different opinions and loyalties and yet support each other. They always seem to end up succumbing to patriarchal cults, where Lenin-Hitler-Mao-Trump gets to do whatever he wants to your sons and your daughters, and you and your working class have no recourse.

What’s the problem here?

All the stuff is listed as rule 1 and rule 2 and they seem to fit the description even without the helpful context.

There’s one ban evasion in there too.

Sounds like the Marxist mod is doing a good job.

In my country we have antifa for antifascists. Are you here some kind of anti-tankies? Because I see far, far more posts about antitankies fighting supposed tankies than I see people fighting fascists.

Noticed that majority of tankie and genocide defending users are from lemmy.ml, grad of hexbear.

I am all for a temporary defederation.

.world has power. It has the people and the content. Flexing a little in support of human rights is 100% a good thing.

Ofcourse it's a Makima pfp

Never thought the official lemmy instance itself would have to be part of a temporary defed