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[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 58 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

This is stupid. There is just as much evidence it came from Fort Detrick.

For the record I don't think it came from either.

[–] TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 42 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't know why anyone is still talking about a lab outbreak in Wuhan because of the wet market nearby being suspected in mid December, when we know for sure that Covid was in Italy in September/October and possibly as early as May. The world just shrugged at this info because faecal treatment samples aren't as interesting as as bat soup and bioterrorism.

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (18 children)

Racism mostly. Easier to just be racist against the Chinese than to admit COVID is the result of something more nuanced and systemic

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[–] photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 year ago (16 children)

Any sources on the virus being discovered in Italy before China? That would change the entire discussion.

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[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 32 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That’s the thing, the COVID conspiracy people now posting this shirt saying, “SEE!?! IT WAS LAB LEAK!!” as if that justifies every single other insane thing they’ve ever said about COVID. Because there’s a huge difference between “covid CAME FROM a lab” and “lab leak possible origin.” One implies conspiracy, the other implies carelessness. What’s the old saying? ‘Never attribute to malice what can be attributed to greed?’ I very much think the same applies to stupidity—and honestly, in this case, greed probably caused the stupidity. How much funding-slashing has led to calamity in recent times? Plenty.

[–] itsonlygeorge@reddthat.com 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I think the lab with a long record of carelessness leaking the virus by accident is entirely plausible if not the most reasonable explanation. The issue is not so much about how/when it was leaked, but more along the lines of how poorly they handled the whole situation and subsequent coverup. For all we know, it could have been leaked by accident way earlier.

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 23 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I think the lab with a long record of carelessness leaking the virus by accident is entirely plausible if not the most reasonable explanation

I personally don't think it came from Detrick, but I don't fault you for thinking so

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[–] jonne@infosec.pub 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah, I don't really have any issues with accepting a lab leak possibility, but the lab leak people generally add a whole bunch of other conspiracies on top of that (it was designed as a bioweapon, leaked intentionally, etc), and nobody can really explain why this would be any good as a bioweapon if it hurts you as much as your enemies, and if you release it without having a vaccine for it.

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[–] Xylight@lemmy.xylight.dev 47 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

Hexbear users coming to defend China before even reading the post title:

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[–] idunnololz@lemmy.world 40 points 11 months ago

Sup guys. Just commenting here so you can avoid reading the most brainlet of a take below. Hope you all have a good day.

[–] btbt@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] hark@lemmy.world 24 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Looks like lab leak theory is back on the menu boys!

[–] winterayars@sh.itjust.works 10 points 11 months ago

I feel like i'm taking crazy pills!

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