TheOctonaut

I'm pretty sure he means Americans, collectively. Not sure why you think anyone would believe Hezbollah wanted every Muslim dead after 9/11?

They have 98% of it thanks to those damn dirty apes

Took me a while, but I think you meant disenfranchisment

There's a lot more than a single obscure research paper but that's the best one in terms of science in my opinion. It was quite broadly covered news (in Europe at least?) when the virus was first found in waste water samples from Milan from the same period.

We knew it was in Europe before 2020 all the way back in June 2020: https://www.reuters.com/article/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/italy-sewage-study-suggests-covid-19-was-there-in-december-2019-idUSKBN23Q1J8/

By November 2020 it was pushed back as far as September 2019: https://newseu.cgtn.com/news/2020-11-17/COVID-19-was-spreading-in-Italy-by-September-2019-study-indicates-VuSqUttP8s/index.html

As someone else replied, it isn't saying Covid started in Italy, but rather that it definitely didn't start because someone ate bat soup from a wet market in Wuhan in December 2019. Well, the science is just stating as a fact that Covid was in these samples from Italy in 2019. Everything else is inferred.

It was 2020. We had people shouting about "the China Virus" and others defending the cultural importance of wet markets and others saying it was a bioweapon from a lab and others saying it didn't exist at all.

It seemed to suit absolutely nobody's narrative that

• it took longer to be detected than previously thought, and lots of doctors missed it
• we don't really know where it started exactly, and can't really ever know without a concerted investigation of the same sort done in Italy
• international travel and globalisation as well as illegal trade of exotic animals and their carcasses makes it all pretty much guesswork, since Indonesian civit poachers on Filipino boats in the South China Sea don't submit wastewater samples
• ultimately its source was inconsequential compared to how we actually responded and what we retained afterwards (nothing, it seems)

Wasn't this disproven already? Covid has been detected in human waste matter samples from Autumn 2019 in Italy.

Overall, the results of this blind retesting of a selected set of samples indicate the presence of SARS-CoV-2 antibodies in some SMILE samples collected in the prepandemic period. The oldest samples found positive for IgM by both laboratories were collected on 10 October 2019 (Lombardy), 11 November 2019 (Lombardy) and 5 February 2020 (Lazio), the latter with neutralizing antibodies. Two additional samples collected on 17 December 2019 (Campania) and 28 January 2020 (Lombardy) tested as IgG positive by VisMederi and positive for IgG S1 and IgG S1+NP by Erasmus. Additional IgM positive cases could have been detected also by Erasmus by lowering the cut-off of the commercial IgM assay. The older among these putative additional IgM positive samples was collected on 3 September 2019 in the Veneto region, one of the first and mostly severely affected COVID-19 regions.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8778320/

Probably not, this is a dispute about profitability.

I don't, because a single individual committed a crime, and got punished for it. Not sure what you think was obvious about this.

capitalism is currently the only economic system

Country?

Country?

Any day now, Yogs

Ireland allowed it? That's a very interesting take. Could you expand on that please?