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[–] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 134 points 1 year ago (1 children)

DeSantis says that he'll be a direct threat to your health if elected.

[–] squiblet@kbin.social 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Or basically he'll hold his finger to the wind and say whatever he thinks the hard-right fringe wants.

[–] hansl@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago (2 children)

People made excuses like that for Trump in 2016. Turns out he did exactly what he said he would. The country did a full Pikachu face.

Believe DeSantis when he says stuff like this. And also consider his record in Florida doing exactly that.

[–] squiblet@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Sure, I don’t think he’s a secret liberal or something. Anyway by acting as anti-science and fascist as possible he’d be representing his constituents.

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[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

He'll have to lick the pudding off first.

[–] iBaz@lemmy.world 91 points 1 year ago (3 children)

He’s got absolutely no shot at being President, and every time he opens his mouth, support for him drops. Keep talking Ronny.

[–] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I definitely don't want him to win, but it would be nice if one of those assholes could actually pose a real threat to Trump's almost inevitable nomination.
If Trump had actual competition in the Republican primary the infighting would be so bad they'd literally tear the party apart.

[–] ShakeThatYam@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

For there to be actual competition the moderates would need to drop any remaining DeSantis support (which probably isn't much) and unite under Haley (preferably) or Pence/Christie. Haley has been gaining some traction in NH so it could be possible but probably unlikely. Trump will more than likely run away with the nomination.

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[–] Psythik@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

What if Trump is actually jailed and/or barred from running? Wouldn't that make DeSatan the next best candidate? Even if just one state bars Trump from running, that should be enough to end his campaign and hand the nomination to DeSanctimonious. He'll still lose the general election to Biden, but still.

[–] ShakeThatYam@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It would probably be Ramaswamy. He's ahead of DeSantis in many polls and essentially believes everything Trump does. Plus he has way more charisma than DeSantis.

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[–] bobthened@feddit.uk 5 points 1 year ago

It might, but luckily DeSantis is so unlikeable and has zero charisma, that the republicans would never win a presidential election with him as the candidate.

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[–] Sneptaur@pawb.social 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Support for him drops and support for Trump grows

[–] HoustonHenry@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And my belief in the average American drops

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[–] Depress_Mode@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Good thing we won’t have to worry about that

[–] DoctorTYVM@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Latest polling has him below Chris Christie so....yeah lol who asked him?

[–] spongebue@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes. The good news is he's bottoming out. The bad news is Vivek is doing well.

[–] frickineh@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think there are too many racists who won't be willing to vote for Vivek in the primary when it comes down to it, though. He hasn't even pulled a Nikki Haley and pretended to be white, and I know that bothers people. I've read some comments that are super gross but also positive(ish, racism is never positive, really) for anyone who opposes him for being a shitbag.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Right. In order for the grift that Vivek is trying to fully work, he has to be a white male cishet xtian. He does not check all of those identity politics boxes so it's only going to work for a sliver of the GOP.

[–] Cabrio@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Eh, I'm not so sure. Racists love an Uncle Tom.

[–] krayj@sh.itjust.works 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I don't understand the party thought process: they seem to want as many births as possible, but they also seem to want as many deaths as possible. What does that get them?

Edit: never mind, I figured it out. This is slave-owner mentality. You want/need lots of fresh new meat for the grinder, but then you want to be rid of them as soon as they are past their forced-labor prime.

[–] BeautifulMind@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is slave-owner mentality

It's also religious-war/race war mentality.

The 'covid is fake/masks don't work' talking points were cast early on, when the data were mostly being reported in high-population-density areas. I suspect they decided the pandemic was a political opportunity, to let the virus kill off minorities and democrats in the cities for them.

Of course, they're stupid as hell in that they killed far more of their own voters than they did anyone else.

[–] scrawny_clown_snatch@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It is entirely possible that the lopsided amount of covid related deaths among the conservative population actually skewed purple districts to blue in recent years. Stop this timeline I want to get off.

[–] Cabrio@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

We should remove warning labels for a year and absolutely decimate the Conservative voting base.

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[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They will say and do whatever they think will whip their cultists into a frenzy enough to vote and keep them in power. Whether or not it kills those same voters is irrelevant to them.

There are some of them who are just idiot true believers, but they don't tend to be the ones in high leadership positions.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, DeSADIST is one of those people that surely knows better. But he has to reverse virtue signal to the feces-flinging howler monkeys that make up his party, and they actually will believe whatever they are told to believe, as long as they think it will "own the libs".

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

He's actually a tricky one for me to call. He might be in the category of people who fell for their own bullshit.

[–] Jah348@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

It has nothing to do with protecting lives, it's securing the votes of religious Americans.

[–] Hiccup@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why is this bozo even getting tv time? Just interview a local homeless man in need.

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[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

We should stop giving private corporations public funds anyway. Not that I think DeSantis would do it, but medicine and vaccines should 100% be funded, researched, and produced by public parties.

Edit before my comment gets misunderstood: my comment is in no way a compliment to DeSantis or anti-vaccine in any way. Just against private companies being given tax dollars

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They were publicly funded! We allowed private interests to make money off of them anyway.

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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Interesting. I remember when the True Conservatives (TM) were telling me that donnie won't be the selection for their party, but ronnie will. Because he's so reasonable and all and donnie without the baggage.

Wonder where all those people are right about now? They were saying they'll never vote for the "Democrat (sic) Party", because "too extreme", "too woke", etc, but will vote third party if donnie does win the primary, but otherwise, they wanted ronnie. Again, because of so many principles. LOL.

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He’s going to get people killed, and it will be part of the plan.

[–] Cold_Brew_Enema@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

Lol real great talk there, moron. Trashing the CDC is definitely and saying not to trust science is definitely something I want in a president.

[–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 year ago

I don’t think he’ll have to worry much about that.

[–] havokdj@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why in the fuck would ANYONE vote for this guy?

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[–] ohlaph@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

What an absolute skid mark.

[–] Ertebolle@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago

Meanwhile, he's polling 5th in New Hampshire and even fellow Republicans consider his campaign an embarrassment, so spewing dingbat contrarian shit like this is basically all he has left.

[–] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Desantis wont really do anything positive as president.

[–] Introversion@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Could’ve stopped that sentence at “positive”.

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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

More reverse virtue signaling from the party where cruelty is the point.

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[–] Hairyblue@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Anti science presidents are not the future. DeSantis will never be president. I hope they vote him out of Governor too.

[–] spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He's on his 2nd term and cannot run for a consecutive 3rd, but he's governor until 2027. Plenty of time to further destroy the state.

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[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Keep digging that hole Ron, you’re a great example of not learning from mistakes.

[–] Blackbeard@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Such a weird tactic. It's like none of them have any idea how to campaign, and they haven't realized that Trump already has the right wing locked up. Campaigning to his right is a shortcut to irrelevance.

[–] BURN@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Most are campaigning for the VP spot or to pick up where trump will leave off if/when he’s brought to prison. They don’t need to win, they just need to be the last one standing because the MAGAts will vote for the R, not the candidate

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[–] MinusPi@yiffit.net 8 points 1 year ago

Is that a surprise to anyone?

[–] BobbyBandwidth@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] carl_dungeon@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

However, oddly enough, he said he is going to approve subsidies and interest free loans if you spend the money on baby shoes.

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