this post was submitted on 21 Sep 2023
122 points (99.2% liked)

Starfield

2860 readers
1 users here now

Welcome to the Starfield community on Lemmy.zip!

Helpful links:

Spoiler policy:

Post & comment spoiler syntax:

<spoiler here>

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
all 44 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 57 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Ladders are annoying as fuck in ships, that’s why. It’s essentially a mini cutscene you can rewind. Hell, even Minecraft has a better ladder system.

[–] all-knight-party@kbin.run 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I just boost pack up the hole, anyone actually trying to use the ladders would be silly

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Sure, but even that is a pain when you're trying to get through a ship quickly. And if there's 2 ladders stacked and you miss the ledge grab on the second? Chutes and ladders, motherfucker.

[–] all-knight-party@kbin.run 2 points 1 year ago

It sure is a bitch with two stacked ladders, I have a ship like that but everything on the third floor is just crew station habs with nothing I need to access, I kept all the important shit on the main level, that's all just stat boosting going on up there

[–] Zehzin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Y'all are actually walking through the ship and not just teleporting everywhere?

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was before I discovered you can access the cargo hold from the pilots chair, but also I like to nap to refresh the xp boost before getting off the ship.

[–] serv@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hold up! What? How do you access the cargo from the pilot chair?

[–] Blaidd@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Open your inventory and you can push a button to switch to the ship. It works anywhere on the ship. If you aren't sure which button opens the ship's cargo (I have it set to Q but I think that's a custom keybinding) it will say at the bottom of the inventory screen which button to press to open the cargo hold.

You can also access the ship's cargo when interacting with merchants and sell things directly from the ship.

[–] neoman4426@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not just anywhere on the ship, have full access to the ship inventory to transfer to and from it if you're within ~250 meters of it which can be helpful if you grab too much in one of those places that'll let you land pretty close to a building or whatever

[–] serv@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

What?! 🤯

I've wasted so much time getting in and out of the ship for this 🤦🏻

[–] serv@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago
[–] JFowler369@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah that was my thought when I read this article. I used the ladder once, thought never again, and just started jumping up. Only issue is a double ladder but those are better avoided anyway.

[–] Its_Always_420@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

My favorite part is when you get to the top of the ladder and the cutscene ends just in time for you to fall back down into the hole.

[–] variants@possumpat.io 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hate that you can't turn around or shoot from them, going up the ladder while three people are shooting you all nice and calm then turning around like a Terminator

[–] pimento64@sopuli.xyz 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It should be stated for comparison purposes that you could shoot from ladders in Half-Life.

25 years ago.

[–] emptyother@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

To be fair that ladder climbing didnt have an animation. You just floated up or down.

Not that I need an animation in a singleplayer first person game. I'd rather not have any third person stuff at all.

[–] thesprongler@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

If only we could place a puddle of water at the bottom of our ladders.

[–] JoshuaSlowpoke777@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I use a balanced boostpack to get through the ladder holes and thus ascend the floors faster.

One of these days, I want to create a ship that’s shaped suspiciously like the mothership from Homeworld (basically built like a tower rather than a flat building), just for kicks (and to test whether this tactic works with multiple floors in the same ladder chamber)

[–] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 34 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Doesn't help that ladder animations, among others, are simply way too slow.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 year ago

Yep. I avoided them. I just used my jetpack and climbed up like that.

[–] Kes@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I don't understand the trend of games making ladder animations super slow for ladders in places players are supposed to use often. Any game that instantly teleports you to the top or bottom of a ladder, regardless of how much it breaks immersion, gets an A in my book rather than spending 30 seconds climbing up one story in an area that I have to ladder to frequently

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 3 points 1 year ago

I just use my power boost pack and jump up.

[–] Blamemeta@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago

Its realistic. A normal human carrying 10 weapons, ammo, a ton of drugs, etc, is not going to get up a ladder quickly.

Still bad gameplay

[–] squid@feddit.uk 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I wish for 0g in ships while in space. Would fix many issues and make it more of a sim

[–] Redditiscancer789@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wish you could turn it off but isn't the lore explanation the grav drive giving artificial gravity? Or did I Mendela effect something.

[–] squid@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They need to make up they're mind on grav drive being law or mechanic as when I remove all power from grav I'm still feet on the ground

[–] M137@lemmy.world -5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why do you hate basic grammar? It seriously hurt to read your comment.

[–] squid@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago

Well I've got dyslexia so thats a good reason I guess but its also my strength as I had to work a lot harder to get to where I am

[–] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Mild spoilers. There's a few levels where it's zero g. Some random encounters where you raid a enemy ship, it's zero g and when you reach the captain's chair, you turn the gravity back on and all the doohickeys like pencils and mugs fall down in a really satisfying way.

[–] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

I think that happens if you damage the grav drive before boarding but I'm not entirely sure.

[–] dudewitbow@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I thought that one random spacestation where gravity turned on and off every 10 seconds was pretty interesting puzzle wise.

[–] squid@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago

If you knock out someone's grav drive before boarding youll have 0g, I often aim for it lol

[–] Redditiscancer789@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

And here I am where I built my capital ship before restarting that had 4 ladders stacked on 1 area.....=_=

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Personally, I haven't really found a way to connect rooms above rooms in a way that uses the ladder position I actually want. Its just random, which is annoying because most of the time it doesn't give me a single ladder that connects all the floors, it connects 2 or 3 at one spot, another 2 at another, etc. It's fucking dumb. I mean, I could use the single room pieces for this, but that looks ugly and is otherwise totally unnecessary.

[–] ShittyRedditWasBetter@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Wodge@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, they are ladders, with rungs and all that, and not just something to interact with to go to a loading transition.

I know, I'm being nitpicky haha

[–] Affidavit@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago

There's some weird bug with a ladder in one of my ships. There's a hole at the bottom of the ladder that drops down to the ground floor (with no corresponding ladder itself). This means I need to select the ladder from an angle or start climbing all over again.

I might check this build out once I meet the requirements.

[–] zepheriths@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"finally"? The came out 15 days ago. That's not that long

[–] PoopingCough@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

They mean it's the first Bethesda game to have proper ladders, not that they've only been recently added to starfield.

[–] M137@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago

How are you this dumb?