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[–] Custoslibera@lemmy.world 61 points 1 year ago (27 children)

Funny. All capitalism did to me was turn me socialist.

[–] cmbabul@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

I’m that too, but I’m definitely addicted to a lot of things and capitalism exploits the human brain’s love of dopamine, since it’s an easy way to keep us consuming

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[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

As a freelance writer I'll usually avoid topics that fall into the "well d'uh" category.

Turns out I've been limiting my career path...

Capitalism turns people into addicts? No shit... that's entirely the point of capitalism. It's literally the defining characteristic.

Shit...I have an article in my hard drive right now about how our disposable approach to consumer electronics robs our generation of a sense of historical provenance.

I've never even considered publishing it because to me it falls into the "no shit... everyone already knows that" category.

[–] Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

our disposable approach to consumer electronics robs our generation of a sense of historical provenance.

let me have it doc, you've found your audience

[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

Has never gone through the proper final edit. But my central thesis came when I was watching Antiques Roadshow and my brain tried to reconcile a pocket watch carried by a civil war soldier; engraved and handed down through generations until it lands in a museum in 2021 (when I began working on the article).

While in comparison, a modern smartwatch, that literally no one cares about once the company stops supporting it with software updates.

Certainly there are modern objects that will find a home in the museums of tomorrow (the first iPhone, for example). But as a writer (who went to university initially for archaeology) interested in artifacts from daily life, our generation's place in the museums of the future is effectively erased because we have nothing to preserve that anyone would honestly give a damn about.

By creating a world dominated by disposable things, companies have effectively taken control of our very legacy. If the only item worthy off being studied is one of corporate significance (the first iPhone, the first smartwatch, etc...), then we lose our personal connection to that legacy.

It's obviously more complicated than all that, and delves into how we study the techniques of individual potters and painters, for example. If I ever get it publication ready it would be a miracle.

[–] SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org -2 points 1 year ago

I can't get over "d'uh". Where on earth did you get the idea an apostrophe is needed? I've seen all sorts of weird spelling and punctuation but this is a first for me.

[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Trump killed any dopamine hit I could get from social media. That shit lead straight to depression.

In fact there is very little that even excites me beyond sports, but I'm a Broncos fan so no dopamine hits there.

Lucky I have hobbies and Colorado is awesome or lide would be pretty terrible.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Dopamine hits are definitely a path to depression.

Immediate gratification, especially if it’s semi-randomly applied, rewires the brain to specialize it for low-effort-low-reward activities, which basically makes success in the real world less likely, making the real world overwhelming, leading to a partial freeze response which is aka depression.

[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Going from a top ten President in Obama to the worst of all time will do that.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Not really. I recommend reading Man’s Search for Meaning by Victor Frankl for a powerful discussion of the decoupling of circumstances and spirit.

Long story short is the horrors we’ve all experienced under Trump are nothing compared to the horrors our brains evolved to handle.

[–] cmbabul@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

At least you’ve got Coach Prime to keep things interesting at the moment

[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I doubt they will beat Oregon or USC, but it's fun to see Colorado good again. I did my Masters study a CU bit they were not great for a long time.

[–] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

There's another article I'll drop here that talks about how cigarette manufacturers, once their addictive schemes were found out, went on to make Kraft Foods and Nabisco (who make oreos). Using their background in peddling addictive substances, they utilized the same model by creating "hyper palatable foods." basically, foods full of carbs and sugar, that trigger the dopamine response in your brain.

This means they were able to make Oreos as addictive as cocaine.

They drove people to early death from lung cancer, emphysema, and COPD, and when their scheme was found out, they started driving people to early death from diabetes, heart disease, and every other condition that obesity exacerbates.

There are currently class action lawsuits going after opioid makers for their lies about the addictive properties of their drug (FUCK THE SACKLER FAMILY), why not these Kraft foods too?

[–] Touching_Grass@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

They also went on to work for fossil fuel companies to use what they learned lying to the public about cancer and cigarette connection and used it for climate issues. One example was called I.C.E. who bought ads in magazines that showed a chicken holding a snowball and saying some crap like "global warming yet we had snow in July in ...." They had their memos leaked and you can read them all describing how they need to target groups especially men aged 40+ because they are easy to persuade. They thought so little of the people who ate up their gimmicks

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Watching the NFL yesterday for the first time in a few years, I was blown away by how much it's just a mechanism for pushing gambling addiction, food addiction, and alcoholism.

[–] ech@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

Turning? This has been the goal and process for a long, long time.

[–] Elliott@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Marketing corps are pretty effective and quite predatory...ACT NOW ONLY 5 LEFT IN STOCK.

[–] drekly@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

583 OTHER PEOPLE ARE READING THIS COMMENT, QUICK ACT NOW

[–] SCB@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If that works on someone, it's not because the marketer is smart, but because they know how to cast their net where the dumb fish are.

[–] Elliott@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yea, but it's more devious than that. Technology making it possible micro target groups and individuals get kinda scary. If I know enough about you, I can almost convince you if anything. All top tier marketing peeps know this.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

get kinda scary

Only if you are of the mindset that it is bad originally. It's like how Tucker Carlson can make immigrants seem scary.

If I know enough about you, I can almost convince you if anything

This is not how targeted ads work, and doesn't really seem to be true. It stands to reason that a lot of progressive young people know a lot about their conservative parents or grandparents and yet cannot convince them of anything.

[–] Elliott@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Read up on Cambridge Analytica.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm well aware of Cambridge Analytica and it seems you are not. They did not mind control people.

They simply had insider knowledge on where to toss their nets.

[–] Elliott@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Sure thing.

[–] AfricanExpansionist@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Capitalism is based on addiction... Sugar, tobacco...

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 3 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Think, for example, of all the apps and platforms specifically designed to hijack our attention with pings and dopamine hits while harvesting our data.

I spoke to Courtwright about the problems this has created, why the battle against limbic capitalism is seemingly endless, and if he thinks we’re destined to live in a consumerist dystopia.

But what’s happened in the last 100 years or so is that more of these commercial strategies come from highly organized corporations that do very sophisticated research and find more ways to market these addictive goods and services.

So again, the demand, “I’ve got to eat something,” was always there, but what the processed food industry does, because it’s so competitive, is create products that will provide the calories and nutrients in ways that act like mood-altering drugs.

Sure, everyone needs to eat, but not everyone needs to tweet or buy 13 pairs of sunglasses or own a closet of products that add nothing to their life apart from marking their identity and status for other people.

And we have tax policy, we have potential structural limitations, we have lawsuits and big class action cases that pose serious problems for American limbic capitalists.


The original article contains 1,959 words, the summary contains 198 words. Saved 90%. I'm a bot and I'm open source!

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

And here I thought it was all the heroin I'd been injecting. Although I guess I buy that with money...

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

That is the intent, and I know it is getting to me, I can't see someone eating a burger without needing to get fast food brand.

[–] bigwag@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Material gang stand up

[–] Mouette@jlai.lu 1 points 1 year ago

Joke on them i'm already an addict

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