Can't say I blame them. It's really rough.
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It's a disaster. We're brain draining poor countries of doctors and nurses whilst ours are off to Canada and elsewhere.
UK general practitioner:
https://www.payscale.com/research/UK/Job=General_Practitioner/Salary
£64,922 / year
($81,152.5)
Australia general practitioner:
https://www.payscale.com/research/AU/Job=General_Practitioner/Salary
AU$134,272 / year
($85,934.08)
Canada general practitioner:
https://www.payscale.com/research/CA/Job=General_Practitioner/Salary
C$147,395 / year
($109,072.3)
US general practitioner:
https://www.payscale.com/research/US/Job=General_Practitioner/Salary
$127,451 / year
UK surgeon:
https://www.payscale.com/research/UK/Job=Surgeon/Salary
£72,465 / year
($90,581.25)
Australia Surgeon:
https://www.payscale.com/research/AU/Job=Surgeon/Salary
AU$220,000 / year
($140,800)
Canada surgeon:
https://www.payscale.com/research/CA/Job=Surgeon/Salary
C$184,000 / year
($136,160)
US surgeon:
https://www.payscale.com/research/US/Job=Surgeon/Salary
$308,047 / year
Note that payscale.com just measures salary; it doesn't include other forms of compensation, taxation, cost of living, public services provided with that taxation, etc. So there are some additional modifiers.
Yes, US salaries always look misleadingly high without taking the insurance situation into account.
US salaries don't take the cost of education into account either. Most doctors are paying a hefty amount to student loans for decades on top of the malpractice insurance and other costs to practicing medicine.
Plus the absolutely ridiculous work hours. I assume other countries also have long hours, but doubt they are to the same extent as US doctors.
That sort of data makes a lot more sense in a table:
| Country | GP (local/year) | GP (USD/year) | Surgeon (local/year) | Surgeon (USD/year) |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 🇬🇧 | 64,922 GBP | 81,152 | 72,465 GBP | 90,581 |
| 🇦🇺 | 134,272 AUD | 85,934 | 220,000 AUD | 140,800 |
| 🇨🇦 | 147,395 CAD | 109,072 | 184,000 CAD | 136,160 |
| 🇺🇸 | 127,451 USD | 308,047 USD |
It's the only viable medical career path at the moment: graduate with your degree, do upto 2 years in the NHS then go into the private sector (private or NHS contracts) or abroad.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Poor pay, work-life balance and working conditions of doctors in the UK were the main factors cited by those intending to emigrate to continue their medical career.
They come weeks after junior and senior doctors announced the first joint strike in the history of the health service, which is expected to bring widespread disruption in September and October.
The Guardian revealed in July that the NHS was losing senior doctors to countries including Ireland, Australia and the United Arab Emirates because they could double their salary and enjoy better working conditions.
Writing in the BMJ Open, the authors, including students at the University of Cambridge and Imperial College London, said the NHS was facing a “critical workforce shortage”.
The authors concluded: “The findings of this study emphasise the urgency of addressing the factors that are driving the exodus of doctors from the NHS and suggest that increased recruitment of medical students may not provide an adequate solution to staffing challenges.
And the first ever NHS long-term workforce plan, backed by over £2.4bn, will double the number of medical school places to recruit and retain hundreds of thousands more staff over the next 15 years.”
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This is what you get when you allow for-proft healthcare to coexist with socialised medicine. The people with the money go private and don't think twice about funding the social model.
It's why this is expressly ruled out in the Canada Health Act.
Jaysus even the people that make up the NHS don't believe in the NHS! They'd rather work for a non NHS style health system. Says a lot.