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[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 59 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Digimon always had more interesting monsters and evolutions than Pokemon. I've never really understood why Pokemon beat Digimon.

Edit: Nearly forgot that Digimon even had devolving as well.

[–] IdleSheep@lemmy.blahaj.zone 85 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Because Digimon was a tamagochi clone first and everything else second. There was never a Digimon game formula or a Digimon card game formula or a Digimon anime formula. They just made random media to sell toys without any care for consistency. That lack of consistency made it have less general appeal.

Even today it's hard to introduce people to Digimon because there really is no right starting point, it's all different media and how much you like each one depends on your personal tastes.

Pokémon had it all consistent from day one. The tcg, the games, the anime, it's basically all the same even today. You can introduce someone to Pokémon with any media because it's all so consistently transversal.

[–] HerbalGamer@lemm.ee 59 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's because pokemon had a great game at its base.

[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I never liked that they went back to weaker forms, as a kid that inherently made me feel like Pokemon were better because they stayed evolved. Also, I did think the evolutions were very random as a kid and didn't understand why their lines weren't more congruent like Pokemon.

[–] Theharpyeagle@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Honestly there were some good episodes based on pokemon changing as they evolve and whether that's something they and their trainer actually want. Digimon Tamers played with it a little bit but not for long.

Also yeah, the evolution lines are just so fucked. I remember trying out the card game ages ago and being so confused by how different the evolution lines were from the anime.

[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The above being said I never turned down an opportunity to watch Digimon as a kid, I still liked it a lot.

[–] Theharpyeagle@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh for sure. The most recent series, Ghost Game, was pretty good, too (as long as you don't expect anything from the scant overarching plot).

[–] discostjohn@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I read an article that said that the Ghost Game show was intentionally built up as a villain of the week show, with a minimal overarching plot, because the creators were aware of how successful tiktok and short form media was.

[–] Theharpyeagle@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

That makes sense, though I do wish they'd told whoever wrote the last episode that.

[–] HelluvaKick@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Even though the Pokémon only said their names, the Digimon had the most disgusting voices in the dub, and that's honestly why I think it lost

[–] Theharpyeagle@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I actually love most of the voices in the dubs, though that may be just because I grew up with them.

Plus, how else can you hear "come out and face me like a mon!"

[–] KeefChief12@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] Tumnus@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Digimon had (and still does, though they're way less frequent than Pokemon games) fantastic games. Digimon world 3 (while grindy) was one of my favorites growing up.

[–] RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] PM_ME_FEET_PICS@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pretty sure there is a new Pokémon every few years.

[–] RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

yeah but when was the last time one of them was actually good

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] figaro@lemdro.id 4 points 1 year ago

Yeah you have to play the off season games for actual creativity. It's a sad reality.

[–] polskilumalo@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago (6 children)

The newest game has been the one that sold best compared to the others in the past despite the quality issues 💀

So yes, Pokemon does in fact have the games.

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[–] Theharpyeagle@lemmy.world 47 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You forgot the digimon line where they just become a human with a fursuit.

[–] Wage_slave@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago

I saw that movie and they can't call it a digimon anymore because of human rights and a copyright laws.

[–] riquisimo@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Close, except the lion should be bipedal and have some sort of gimmick.

[–] dditty@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Like being a luchador or a soccer player or a ninja

[–] SnowBunting@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] figaro@lemdro.id 3 points 1 year ago

Or a dancer with a machine gun?

[–] UntouchedWagons@lemmy.ca 35 points 1 year ago

I'll take the fridge with a minigun thank you very much.

[–] ech@lemm.ee 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You forgot to give the fridge cat ears and the raptor a bell collar and big jugs.

[–] Theharpyeagle@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] victron@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago

googles that shit Ahem what the actual fuck? :')

[–] candyman337@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

DIGI - MON

DIGITAL MONSTERS

GAT - LING FRIDGE GUN

[–] nehal3m@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Excuse me, that is obviously a gatling gun fridge.

[–] Murais@lemmy.one 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

DIGI - MON

DIGITAL MONSTERS

OBVIOUSLY A GAT - LING GUN FRIDGE

[–] candyman337@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

10 outta 10

[–] popemichael@lemmy.sdf.org 23 points 1 year ago

War metal greymon is a bit too much, but that's only like the 1/4 way point to becoming a god

[–] EndMilkInCrisps@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago

I love this aspect of Digimon though usually they end up looking like a gundam these days. I think it's great that digimon evolution lines aren't set in stone and you can mix and match them to some extent.

[–] Armetron@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

That's the difference between analog and digital evolution

[–] lowleveldata@programming.dev 15 points 1 year ago

You're missing the metal skeleton stage

[–] roon@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Did the Pokemon just change genders lol

I think the second evolution is an American cougar (puma/mountain lion/panther/catamount/probably more names idk).

[–] GenderIsOpSec@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

trans pokemon trans pokemon thinking-about-it transmon

[–] ZILtoid1991@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And that's why Digimon is much better.

[–] Martineski@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago

The original title where I found it (reddit) was "digimon is superior"

[–] variants@possumpat.io 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's getting there, now pokemon are just ghosts that can be in anything, like a lawn mower or a car and also a phone

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Rotom has been around since Gen 4 though

[–] variants@possumpat.io 7 points 1 year ago

Yeah still weird though haha, now we have the kettle ghoul and the revaroom and the apple pie dragon. I'll still collect them all though I never had an issue with Magnemite or Voltorb so more mons is more mons

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[–] Ser_Salty@feddit.de 8 points 1 year ago

Digimon will either turn into a robot skeleton with laser rockets, or just a furry

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