this post was submitted on 03 Sep 2023
532 points (97.5% liked)

Technology

59135 readers
6622 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.


Our Rules


  1. Follow the lemmy.world rules.
  2. Only tech related content.
  3. Be excellent to each another!
  4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
  5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
  6. Politics threads may be removed.
  7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
  8. Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
  9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed

Approved Bots


founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

Senator Admits "Kids Online Safety Act" Will Target Trans Content Online.::The lead sponsor of the "Kids Online Safety Act," otherwise known as KOSA, has stated over the weekend that it will be used to "protect minor children from the transgender in our culture."

all 30 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] PeterPoopshit@lemmy.world 92 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Before you know it, it will be almost impossible to browse the internet normally without getting a visit from the feds for some bs reason. Guess we'll all be using the dark net for everything.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 46 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Thus driving people to the place where CSAM is.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As it always was. The usenet alt.* address set was actually for Anarchists, Lunatics and Terrorists. The public will respond to internet prohibition the way it responded to alcohol prohibition (or abortion prohibition, or speeding prohibition, etc.) And to get technology to cover our tracks, yes, we'll be making friends with terrorists, pirates and even collectors of CSAM and less accepted porn. Sellers of state secrets, too.

However, these unsavory elements have way more in common with the regular public than politicians who want to persecute undesirables to further their careers, or law enforcement officers who are eager for any excuse to kill a poor person.

[–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The usenet alt.* address set was actually for Anarchists, Lunatics and Terrorists.

No, that was just a dumb joke: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alt.*_hierarchy

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 year ago

Curiously, when I learned of it it was a dumb joke that was the actual name of the alt. hierarchy, and I was corrected when I initially assumed it meant alternative.

I'm not saying you're wrong, but there are enough people who believe the joke that I can't assume it's just a joke. And Wikipedia used to say differently than it does today.

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And/or the invention of the darkernet

[–] T156@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Darkernet implies a darkestnet.

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Now you’re gettin’ it!

[–] Smacks@lemmy.world 57 points 1 year ago

If a law says it's "for the kids" It 100% contains some of the most intrusive, dictatorial legislation known to man

[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 54 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Oh, wait. So they misuse a sprawling censorship law for things they don't like from the start?!

[–] tabular@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago

Why is protecting children repeatedly so stupid and evil?

Can we have a Demise of Kids Act which makes those wooden rail sets cheaper?

[–] Wahots@pawb.social 30 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: get parents off their lazy asses and watch over your kid and make sure they are staying safe online.

I'm not even all that old, but growing up in the 90s/00s, we had access to computers at school, and if we were lucky, we had cold computers (computers not connected to the internet) for use for things like games or word processors. We had a family machine that my parents let us use, but generally made sure we only visited sites meant for kids.

If you have kids under 13, monitor them when they use the internet. As they get older, give them a bit more leeway, but explain why porn isn't great for your mental health. (This includes talking about sex and sexuality of course), how to spot misinformation and why you need to confirm sketchy info, and of course, stranger danger and not getting yourself into bad situations, which includes apps with dark systems and gambling in addition to all the normal dangerous stuff.

You do that, and you avoid most of the problems. The internet will never be a "safe space" for kids the same way a highway never will be a safe space either, despite it facilitating the transfer of goods, services, and transportation. And yet we all will have to learn to use it and how to make the safest possible choices on it while following the written and unwritten rules of the road.

[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

but explain why porn isn't great for your mental health

What, it isn't?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't know if that part is true, but watching porn as a teen can give you some very unrealistic ideas about sex. Kids will watch porn whether people like it or not, so they need to know that porn is fantasy, not reality.

[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[–] Scotty_Trees@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I'm not a smart man by any stretch, but I always assumed growing up that it was just fantasy, so never expected those same things to happen in a real situation with a significant other. I'm surprised people took it so literally, but I can't say I'm 100% shocked either.

[–] PostmodernPythia@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Watching porn 24/7 isn’t great for your mental health.

And watching too much porn can mess with body image and normalize sexual violence, because younger people are looking for any clue as to how the world works and have a harder time separating fantasy and reality than adults.

I like porn, but I don’t think it’s healthy for young teens. Just like weed.

[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 3 points 1 year ago

too much

Here's the problem.

[–] Papergeist@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Yea, what the fuck?!? Everything in moderation.

It has never been about keeping kids safe. These are the same people undermining schools, CPS and the adoption system.

[–] YourAvgMortal@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Watching over your children sounds like a lot of effort. Big Brother can do it for me, and they can remove some of the content I don’t like to see with those bills. I’m on their side so surely it wont affect me negatively.

[–] CCatMan@lemmy.one 6 points 1 year ago

Keep kids safe online, but starve them at school. 👍