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[–] Delascas@feddit.uk 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If you need color, then I highly recommend the Epson EcoTank line of printers. No printer cartridges AT ALL - just raw 4 color ink. They cost more than most inkjet printers up front . . but more than save in the long run. And NO DRM in site . . rather difficult to put DRM into liquid ink . . .

https://epson.com/ecotank-ink-tank-printers

[–] zabi94@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Just a heads up, ECO tanks do have a sponge inside to collect inks. This sponge needs to be replaced periodically. Once replaced a counter needs to be reset, and that's only achievable through their service (it costs about 50€ where I live). In my experience it seems to be required about every 6000 prints

[–] gonzoknowsdotcom1@monero.town 1 points 1 year ago

Thank you I will look into this

[–] Maybe@lemm.ee 28 points 1 year ago

Seconding Brother laser printers. They’re workhorses and I’ve had good luck with cheap third party cartridges

[–] squaresinger@feddit.de 27 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Ender 3.

... woops, wrong community.

[–] cuacamole@feddit.de 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tbh, it would probably be one of the opensource diy printers like voron, jubilee or annex.

[–] JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Aren't those like 4 times the cost though? If we are going in that range, then a Prusa or Bambu p1p if you want something reliable!

Otherwise yeah a voron 2.4 to tinker and push the speed limite

[–] cuacamole@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bambus isnt opensource/no drm, thats what i was going for.

[–] bear_lab@fosstodon.org 1 points 1 year ago

@cuacamole @JustEnoughDucks Prusa MK4 neither, no source files. Same for XL. MK3 has many missing files. Mini has no bootloader file, so this is not a fully open source machine and potentially not compliant with Marlin.

[–] beeng@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you didn't need colour, this could be an option, albeit a slow one.

[–] squaresinger@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

There are color lithophanes now. Check them out, they look amazing.

[–] MazonnaCara89@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But the normal ender 3 got released literally 5 years ago

[–] squaresinger@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's why you get an Ender 3 v2 Neo, which wasn't released 5 years ago.

[–] MazonnaCara89@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Sorry but I bought a sidewinder x2, did apple made this 2 3d printer too?

[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 year ago

My Brother B&W laser printer is a beast. I've had it probably eight years now and am only, two months ago, on my 3rd toner cartridge despite my relatively low use. That counts the starter cartridge which I am told isn't full.

My Brother color printer on the other hand is a pain. The yellow toner always runs out first and it won't print without it. Well, it can, if you finagle things, but then it only does for like 3-4 weeks. Annoying as shit.

But, overall, better than any HP or Canon I've ever used.

[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Both of my Brother laser printers are over 10 years old now and they have been working great. My mono laser printer has an open source driver. Unfortunately, there is no open source driver for my color laser printer, but there is no DRM either. The toner cartridges have a mechanical toner level reset if you want to refill them.

The newer Brother laser printers support driverless printing, so you don't have to worry about closed source drivers.

You are going to be stuck with closed source firmware unless you connect a teletype to your computer though.

[–] RobotToaster@infosec.pub 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Even teletypes have firmware.

[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The older teletypes are all electromechanical. There is no firmware, just lots of gears and cams.

[–] amminadabz@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Gears and cams, the firmest of ware.

[–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Driverless printing? How does that work? Specially, how does your computer communicate with the printer?

[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago

Driverless printing uses IPP Everywhere or AirPrint. As long as the printer supports one of those protocols, the computer can use it without needing a driver for the printer.

[–] gonzoknowsdotcom1@monero.town 0 points 1 year ago

Thanks for the info

[–] thfi@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Most comments comments mention Brother, but for me, Oki is working like a charm. Using a B431dn (b/w, duplex) and a C531dn (color, duplex) with PPD files from OpenPrinting. Older models though, not sure if Oki dropped quality in favour of DRM since.

Rules of thumb:

  1. Laser instead of ink unless you specifically know that you need/want ink.
  2. Stay away from HP, Canon, and probably Epson. HP, like IBM, has long lost its aspiration for quality.
  3. Stay away from anything that is ‘smart’ or ‘cloud’.
[–] 7heo@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[–] Kodama@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago
[–] ciko22i3@sopuli.xyz 10 points 1 year ago

I heard Brother is good. I'm sure there are better, but try to look into it

[–] RobotToaster@infosec.pub 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

no DRM

Probably a dot matrix from the 90's

Open source

Closest I've seen is open source plotters.

[–] library_napper@monyet.cc 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This but also no MICs (the yellow dots)

[–] Bene7rddso@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

Black and white only then

[–] Bitrot@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

HP is a shitty company and also has really good Linux support.

None of them are open source. HP does that ink rental stuff that a lot of people don’t understand or they buy a printer that does it exclusively(?). The laser side has been unaffected.

Brother is also supposed to have good support. My last printer was a Brother multifunction and unfortunately it had poor support, which is how I ended up with an HP laser today.

[–] duncesplayed@lemmy.one 4 points 1 year ago

I've heard Brother isn't what it used to be, but if it's even half of what it used to be, it's still in a league above any other printer.

[–] TheImpressiveX@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

That's a lot of undef-s in a link