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The stepsister of a Colorado woman who was found dead along with her sister and teenage son at a remote Rocky Mountain campsite says the women fled into the wilderness after struggling to cope with societal changes in recent years, but they were unequipped to survive off the grid.

Exposed to several feet of snow, chills below zero and with no food found at their camp, Christine Vance, Rebecca Vance and Rebecca’s son likely died of malnutrition and hypothermia, according to the autopsies released this week. Authorities haven’t released the boy’s name.

Those reports contained another chilling detail that brought stepsister Trevala Jara to tears: The 14-year-old boy’s body was found with Jara’s favorite, blessed rosary that she gave the group before they left.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, well fuck them. Except the kid. Fuck them for bringing the kid. You want to escape society, fine. But bring the kid after you've figured out how to survive in the wilderness.

[–] Astroturfed@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People can't survive in the wilderness. At least without a decent size community to support them. There are folks who make it years alone with training and knowledge, but you are always just one mistake or circumstance away from death. Humans are not built to survive alone.

[–] fkn@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

The only way a small number of people survive alone is by having money and a large group of people to buy things from and have those things brought to them by the large group... Oh wait... That's not alone... Right right. My bad.

[–] Stoneykins@mander.xyz 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"Mountain campsite says the women fled into the wilderness after struggling to cope with societal changes in recent years"

I can relate to this.

...found with Jara’s favorite, blessed rosary that she gave the group before they left.

“God was with them,” said Jara

Oh, no I can't. Huh.

[–] duke@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago

Just imagine how bad it would've been if God hadn't been with them! 😯

[–] CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world 1 points 1 year ago

“God was with them,” said Jara

NARRATOR: "He wasn't."

[–] guyrocket@kbin.social 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't have all the details but this sounds like some very stupid campers.

I have done a lot of camping and I would be very cautious about camping "remote" in the Rockies. And no way in hell would I even dream About not taking food.

Sounds like they fucked around with nature and found out.

It also sounds like that boy was a victim of parental stupidity. I pity him.

[–] keeb420@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

yeah unless youre prepared to deal with the amount of snow that falls in the rockies and hunt/gather for food during that time its beyond reckless to try camping in those conditions. i knew someone that moved to alaska to do that with a buddy. they were way more prepared than these people and they came back within a year with their tails between their legs from mother nature kicking their ass.

[–] BobbyNevada@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 1 year ago

The difference between them and your buddy is that your buddy knew when to quit.

[–] autumn@reddthat.com 24 points 1 year ago

Jara said she tried everything short of kidnapping to keep them from leaving, but nothing worked. Now, Jara wants to warn others about the risks of surviving in the wilderness.

“I do not wish this on anybody at all,” Jara said. “I can’t wait to get to the point where I’m happy and all I can think of is the memories.”

I feel so bad for the stepsister

[–] t0lo@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

well they definitely escaped society

[–] bingbong@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago

We live in a society

Bottom text 😔

[–] popemichael@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I am tempted to do this as I have the training.

I also have type 1, which cuts my chances of doing it significantly.

I can make my own insulin, but that means boiling a lot of pancreas that are not mine. Turning me into a vampire like creature for others pancreatic juices...

[–] ClockworkOtter@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Sorry, when you say you can do you mean you have, and used it?

[–] fkn@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Technically didn't that already make you a vampire... Just one that lives in a society where you pay money to a good of people to find and boil those pancreas for you?

[–] Rev3rze@lemdit.com 2 points 1 year ago

Nah, insulin is produced by bacteria that have been edited to contain the genes to create insulin. No pancreas is harmed to make it.

[–] popemichael@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

Now-a-days it's not made from pancreas, but I'm not confident enough to edit yeast DNA yet.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

sharp as a whip

Oof

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Someone told them they were too stupid to live, and they said “hold my cheese whiz”