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[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one 51 points 1 year ago (5 children)

There's an alternate timeline in which I actually give Bing and Edge a chance because Microsoft's not flinging their feces at their users constantly the way they are now

[–] hayhay@programming.dev 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It’s wild because Bing is generally quite good now, but I switched away from it recently because it kept trying to advertise edge…

Meanwhile edge tries to advertise “pay later” schemes and really gets in your face about bing…

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one 8 points 1 year ago

So to be honest, I did use Bing for a good while, mostly for the rewards, and it wasn't bad, but at some point I was using a Canadian IP with a VPN, and Microsoft stubbornly switched everything to Canadian currency and would no longer let me redeem my rewards with US dollars or within the US lol. Honestly, it's one thing that nudged me to start thinking more about using a search engine that's not as problematic as Google or Bing.

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[–] evatronic@lemm.ee 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Until about maybe six months ago, Edge was great (please ignore the massive amount of data it sends to MS) as a browser. The user experience was top notch.

Some product owner with shit for brains was hired and started cramming Bing and AI nonsense into every corner.

MS needs to ease up, fast.

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[–] Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 1 year ago (4 children)

The sad thing is that Edge is actually decent, and Bing is also not terrible... E.g. as an user there is absolutely no reason to use Chrome instead, but Microsoft managed to make it seem so annoying with shit like this.

[–] Swarfega@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

Edge was decent in beta and upon release. I find now though they have slowly been adding in their own features and now it's a browser packed with Microsoft's products.

[–] sovietknuckles@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

E.g. as an user there is absolutely no reason to use Chrome instead

What do you mean instead? Edge is a Chromium rebrand

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[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Edge is actually decent

And also it tracks you, same as Chrome.

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago

Normies barely know what that means, and don't care.

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[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I did that once. I'm Firefox and DuckDuckGo now. Love it. The difference in being served the internet and surfing the internet. Ha. Haven't heard that term in a long time.

[–] AngrilyEatingMuffins@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I find bing to be slightly less shit than google these days.

[–] Dee@lemmings.world 3 points 1 year ago

I've actually found Bing to be way better than Google for a while now. It's not even close, idk what Google did to their search engine but it's pretty frustrating. It's all ads and irrelevant links.

[–] InternetUser2012@midwest.social 39 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Really love being free of Windows and this bullshit.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yup, the only Microsoft product I use at home is GitHub, my home computer is Linux, and my work computer is macOS, so I just don't see this BS.

[–] DrWeevilJammer@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah it is, and that's where I put my personal projects. But I like contributing to other FOSS projects, and most of those are in GitHub.

[–] stib@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Codeberg too. Though I'm still using VSCode because for some reason no one in MS management has remembered that they need to make it awful yet.

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.one 28 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Outlook the other day insisted it was better opening links in Edge instead of my default browser... Yeah, I shut THAT down...

[–] ridago@programming.dev 6 points 1 year ago

Tbf, they did recently (I think) implement a feature where Edge would open with the email in a sidebar when opening links from outlook. So at least there’s some point to it.. if that’s a feature anyone actually wants..

[–] daYMAN007@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

Outlook devs also doesn't know how the internet works. After all they use word as there email renderimg engine

[–] alehel@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I encountered this at work today. I just assumed I couldn't turn it off. Will def be looking for that setting tomorrow.

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[–] Crozekiel@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Anyone else notice the search (in windows 10 at least) suddenly being fucking useless? Used to be able to just type "disk man" and it defaulted to the disk management control panel, now it's defaulting to a Bing search (in edge of course even though Firefox is default browser) for the phrase... Tried it on like 4 computers and only one was even offering the control panel as an option and it wasn't the first one. Same thing with "default apps"...

Really glad I made the jump to Linux when I did, everytime I have to do something out of the usual user use case in windows at work I find myself more and more frustrated and jaded with windows.

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Confirming this on (my sister's installation of) Windows 11. Not even restore point would give me a result (switching to en-US at least found Reset my PC but still creating a restore point is nowhere to be found unless you know where to go from previous versions of Windows).

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 year ago

I'll say it a million times if I have to

Install Linux, take back your computer, get rid of the microshit problem

[–] Skimmer@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are they begging for another antitrust?

[–] const_void@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That would require a functional or semi-functional government which we currently do not have.

[–] Cobrachickenwing@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago

Looks like Microsoft needs to be reminded about their anti trust case again. some things never change.

[–] amio@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Edge* is fucking shitty, to boot. It keeps serving my grandma fucking scam ads, how in the ever-loving motherfuck is that a thing in an official Microsoft browser?

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Are you expecting a browser to filter search results for you? The blame should go to the search engine, and you should be using an ad blocker to boot.

[–] amio@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's the front page you can't get rid of, of the browser that keeps reenabling itself, so I'll keep blaming that, thanks.

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[–] Wyvven@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can they also get google telling me to switch to chrome every time I open an email to become classed as malware

[–] Honza368@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago

I don't usually defend big corpos but compared to what Microsoft is doing, that small Chrome pop up is super minor

[–] argv_minus_one@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] ninjamice@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

There was a thread on hackernews a few days ago (maybe even yesterday, time is a construct) where someone shared a screenshot of a pop up ad served to them by the OS itself.

Wtf. Why would anyone willingly use that crap?

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[–] RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Darn, beat me to it today, can I post this tomorrow?

On a more relevant note:

We are aware of these reports and have paused this notification while we investigate and take appropriate action to address this unintended behavior

What is utter bullshit, Alex?

[–] HughJanus@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

unintended behavior

Who do they expect to believe this shit?

Like "oops we accidentally injected ads into your browser"?

[–] Madex@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Pushed me to endeavour os

[–] JustARegularNerd@aussie.zone 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If the screenshot in the article is to be believed, it literally has a typo, missing a quote for Don't, which is usually one of the most common ways to spot suspicious activity and malware, and now, as someone working for an MSP, I have to now tell those users who see this that confusingly, yes this was legitimate and it was a Microsoft ad. The font isn't exactly standard either, the buttons look like Arial which also just looks suspicious.

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one 5 points 1 year ago

Reminds me of that Facebook class action settlement that was legit, but it looked about as convincing as a ransomware screen

[–] 30p87@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago

Malware characteristics Windows


  • Backdoor/Automatic file download/execution ✓
  • Logs keys ✓
  • Injects into other processes ✗
  • Solely designed to only make money ✓
  • Prevents removal of itself/parts ✓
  • Does not annoy the user ✗
  • From an untrusted source ✓
  • Closed source ✓
  • Sells your data ✓
  • Tries to gain control over the 'user' ✓
  • Relies on unawareness to exist ✓
  • Minimal ✗
  • Compatible with many systems ✗
  • Basic features do not cost like a new GPU ✗
[–] N00b22@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah, on /r/assholedesign I have seen posts about these popups

[–] pedroapero@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

What else are people expecting from Micro$oft ?

[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What is C:\windows\temp? Wasn't LOCALAPPDATA supposed for that?

It's %TEMP% for system components. %APPDATA% and such are meant to be more permanent files, %TEMP% is for files that can be removed between application starts without downsides, i.e. to clean up disk space.

[–] dutchkimble@lemy.lol 1 points 1 year ago

This is getting tiring, not microsoft or Google or apple or any other, its too hard to be private these days, using nextdns, vpn and mull but I still dont feel safe browsing

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