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I get that some instances use the domain + TLD to make a word, like lemm.ee or to an extent, sh.itjust.works. But I've seen so many TLDs I had no idea existed, like .world, .zone, .social, and yes .works as well.

Is there any real reason for that? Trying to look cool or kinda underground-y? Cheaper and more varied domain options? Something actually kinda functional?

Interestingly, I started on vlemmy.net because I was a scared Reddit refugee and the .net TLD gave me comfort. Then it vanished a few days later without a trace. So here I am on lemmy.world

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[–] cstine@lemmy.uncomfortable.business 101 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Because it's no longer 1996 and there are domains beyond ccTLDs and com/net/org?

[–] Karlos_Cantana@sopuli.xyz 56 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's not 1996 anymore?!! Why didn't somebody tell me? My license is probably expired.

[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

One day it was just 1997. Damnedest thing, there was no vote or anything. Frankly I think it was a bad move.

[–] cstine@lemmy.uncomfortable.business 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yep, straight from Macarena to Tubthumping and nobody even noticed.

[–] aphlamingphoenix@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

That was an upgrade, imo

[–] hansl@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.

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[–] 5redie8@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

Shit, gotta get my car inspected too

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 year ago (5 children)

You can buy .zip if you want to now... that still doesn't sit right with me

[–] cstine@lemmy.uncomfortable.business 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm still waiting for .rar so I can buy unregistered.rar, which is the way it's meant to be.

[–] danielton@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

I'm waiting for .7z because it doesn't nag me to register it.

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[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 year ago (6 children)

From what I've heard, .zip is basically only used for malware

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Similarly, I've never seen a .xyz that wasn't used for altchans or sketchy porn sites

[–] DrQuint@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

For me, that was .dance and .moe.

And then there's .ninja which so far has been strictly small web animations.

I really wish Randall Monroe acquired xkcd.xyz tho.

[–] SatyrSack@lemmy.one 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

sopuli.xyz is a sizeable Lemmy instance

[–] elephantium@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Hurts a little that 4k users is "sizeable", but I guess we have to start somewhere.

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[–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

.app has been a thing for a while as well...

[–] DrQuint@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, that domain screams scam emails to me.

here, mr boomer target, click this file

it's a link that redirects to something else

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[–] InfiniWheel@lemmy.one 56 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Weird" TLDs tend to be cheaper. .social is also supposed to be made for this in the first place

[–] dandroid@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago (5 children)

icecream.social is available, and I really want it, but I just can't justify the $800 a year, even if the name is amazing.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 5 points 1 year ago

That's insanely expensive. I suspect that icream.socal is a lot cheaper.

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[–] Chickenstalker@lemmy.world 46 points 1 year ago (4 children)

FOSS people have...weird taste in naming stuff. See: GIMP, GNU, et al.,

[–] collegefurtrader@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] TurnItOff_OnAgain@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

Ubuntu is a South African ethical ideology focusing on people's allegiances and relations with each other. The word comes from the Zulu and Xhosa languages.

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[–] skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl 39 points 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

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[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How much this fucked up people hoarding interesting urls like menu.com and others?

[–] HakFoo@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There is an entire industry "domaining" that trades domain names like baseball cards. It usually boils down to two things:

  • People register pdrq.com because they hope someone will have a wonderful new product named PDRQ later and will pay $10,000 for a domain that cost them $11.

  • Even if there's no direct buyer, there are services that will run low-quality ads on the page. and you can more or less estimate traffic and revenue from typos or dead links pointing to the domain. A three character domain, all letters, will get more than 12 characters with random digits mixed in. If you get $12 a year of random clicks seeing ads for "hot singles in your area offering PDRQ", you're ahead and can justify holding it as part of a portfolio.

[–] loobkoob@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Which really illustrates how much of a bubble waiting to burst online advertising is. Ads on pages like those don't translate into any real-world value for anyone. The advertisers are paying out but they're not actually gaining any sales/users for their money at all because no-one is mistyping a website name, then clicking an advert on the crappy-looking page that comes up, and then deciding to buy/use a product/service from that advert.

[–] ___@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago

Based on my discussions with some domainers I've met, the ads themselves haven't been profitable for the past 5+ years. Their renewals are done at a loss until they make a sale, which covers a few year's worth of renewals on all their domains. It's not as profitable as it used to be with all the new gTLDs out there

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[–] 1984@lemmy.today 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The real reason is because it's expensive to get a short and good .com name and also because it's very corporate and boring.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Commercial sites have .COM

Why do porn sites not have .CUM?

[–] TheInsane42@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Ehm, .xxx works fine for them. (And there's more pr0n then male oriented hetro pr0n)

Hmmm, x.xxx as mastodon server just to annoy extwitter.

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[–] redballooon@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Because porn sites are commercial sites.

hmm… lemmynsfw.com

[–] koreth@lemm.ee 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

lemm.ee's admin is Estonian, so that one at least makes sense.

[–] moreeni@lemm.ee 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They look better and more quirky than the "usual" ones. Also, sometimes they might be even cheaper

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Uh, I think they're always cheaper!

[–] bluefirex@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Definitely not. Some examples (actual prices I pay for my various domains):

  • com: $18/y (gTLD)
  • net: $19/y (gTLD)
  • de: ~$5/y (ccTLD)
  • re: ~$5/y (ccTLD)
  • design: $49/y
  • tech: $55/y
  • blue: $23/y
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[–] rar@discuss.online 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

New gTLDs have been released constantly since ICANN dropped the restriction. Also consider that a lot of Lemmy instances are run by individuals as a side project. That means they'll reuse or nab whatever cool sounding domain they can get to spin up their new instance as quickly as possible. Corporate websites might pause and consider a more "marketable" domain.

Personal theory of mine is *.itjust.works meant to stand for "It Just Works" until they decided to give this Lemmy thing a go.

[–] Taival@suppo.fi 9 points 1 year ago

Personal theory of mine is *.itjust.works meant to stand for "It Just Works" until they decided to give this Lemmy thing a go.

Yep it's referencing a meme that originated almost a decade ago. https://youtu.be/nVqcxarP9J4

[–] Smokeydope@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Cost of domain name tends to be cheaper with more obscure Top Level Domains (TLDs). .com .org .net TLDs are expensive because they are popular and high in demand. You have to rent them out most of the time. Many are already claimed so you either have to buy the owner out or wait till they stop paying and it expires if you really want it, .xyz is very cheap and uncommon on the other hand thus pennies on the dime per year to rent. Also depending on where you live and your occupation you can actually get a domain name for free through registering with specific services that actually for real own the Top Level Domains. If you are a citizen of a certain country you can get a .us or .cad or .eu .ml domain ect either for free or very very cheap.

Check out this list for all TLDs and if you qualify for one for free. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Internet_top-level_domains

Heres a free domain name registar thats quite promising from the looks of it, most likely the one that lemmy.ml uses https://www.freenom.com/en/index.html?lang=en

[–] httpjames@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do not use Freenom. They notoriously revoke domain names on high traffic sites and without notice.

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[–] SmashingSquid@notyour.rodeo 14 points 1 year ago

Registration and renewal cost plus more availability, most shorter names are taken on the older tlds.

I came up with mine by scrolling through tldlist comparing prices and going with the first idea that popped in my head.

[–] theamigan@lemmy.dynatron.me 10 points 1 year ago

Because people think domain hacks are cool, and also, ccTLDs are usually less expensive.

[–] oleorun@lemmy.fan 6 points 1 year ago

I got lemmy.fan just a few months ago. I wanted a short, memorable TLD that stood out a little.

[–] A10@kerala.party 6 points 1 year ago

What better place for people to get together and have fun? No ... it was cheap and domain name was available.

[–] Veraticus@lib.lgbt 5 points 1 year ago

It’s fun! From lib.lgbt.

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