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Mildly Infuriating

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EDIT: The only reason why I still had it at this point was because I could use it with other apps. However, now that my Spotify Subscription is cancelled, it doesn't work with anything. It's mildly infuriating because today, I can't still use it with other apps like I was able to yesterday.

Please don't make the same mistake I made. No one should buy this.

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[–] RanchOnPancakes@lemmy.world 224 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The system working as intended. Now your "locked in".

[–] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"Just find another ~~job~~ ~~place to live~~ head unit"

-deliberately obtuse bootlickers

[–] ScrollinMyDayAway@lemm.ee 133 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (26 children)

I cancelled my paid Spotify account because can't get them to stop fucking recommending Joe Rogan to me.

[–] JudahBenHur@lemm.ee 43 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm moments away from canceling. Splash screens of some bullshit podcast or something I don't want to see. Getting fed up.

[–] uis@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Get on board, sail the seas

[–] sol87@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Search for Github SpotDL And Navidrome

No need to sail them seas, but maybe still use a vpn, just on case. Fun fact i heard from a friend of a friend: Youtube starts rate limiting after 50,000 audio-only video downloads, until you have a new IP.

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[–] lemann@lemmy.one 102 points 1 year ago (4 children)

That's really dissapointing, did Spotify seriously release a hardware device that expensive, and mandates a subscription to operate?

It's a shame because it looks quite nice too, and is sadly guaranteed to be e-waste at some point

[–] Hyperi0n@lemmy.film 80 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Are you kidding me? It's been par for the course as far as car assessors go. Sirus radio was like 100 and still required a subscription. A lot of GPS were that price and most had subscriptions.

[–] 4am@lemm.ee 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Don’t know why you’re being downvoted - enshittification as a viable consumer business model was pretty much proven in the auto space.

Just like they want to charge you to use the heated seats you’re paying the gas to lug around anyway

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[–] lemann@lemmy.one 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just because it's percieved as normal doesn't mean it's something we should put up with though.

With GPS subscriptions (the ones I'm aware of anyway) they will still navigate you from A to B when you stop paying the subscription, you usually just miss out on traffic updates, map updates and other localised enhancements. If there are any that deny you navigation outside the subscription that's plain scummy IMO.

I'm not familiar with Sirius Radio but from what I can see online, it's a satellite radio subscription service that seems to bring new things to the table (like starting a radio station at the beginning of a last song etc). The hardware appears to actually serve a purpose, i.e. it's the satellite receiver for the radio service subscription. I believe we could compare this to buying a Starlink dish for internet access, and paying the monthly subscription. The spotify device shown here is not a standalone device and is only fitted with bluetooth IIRC, requiring a phone for operation.

In comparison to Spotify, Sirius does not appear to have ever had a free plan - whereas Spotify does... I see is no reason why Spotify could not make their free plan usable on this device.

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[–] vox@sopuli.xyz 79 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

you can try this

https://github.com/williamtcastro/carthing-non-premium-spotify

the whole ui/dashboard is just a web app, so it's pretty easy to "jailbreak" or modify

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[–] Tygr@lemmy.world 75 points 1 year ago (4 children)

They named their device “Car Thing?” Just looked it up. Why not just buy a phone mount and play through your phone?

[–] falsem@kbin.social 33 points 1 year ago (9 children)

You can get a magnetic phone mount for like $10-15 that fits in the CD slot like in the picture. Not sure why this is a thing.

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[–] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 60 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Deception followed by coersion is an excellent way to increase shareholder returns.

Why do you hate capitalism?

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[–] drcabbage@lemmy.ml 60 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have a car thing, I use it at my desk for media controls. It is pretty great.

But the product description was pretty clear that you needed premium to use it. The same goes for using any third party Spotify client. Shouldn't have expected otherwise.

[–] MyUnclesSecret@lemmy.world 58 points 1 year ago (14 children)

Buying any physical hardware that doesn't function without a subscription should be a illegal, not something you should expect.

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[–] Izzy@lemmy.world 48 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What is this device? I'm confused as to why it even exists.

[–] Candybar121@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've never heard of it before, it looks like a smartphone that doesn't do anything other than have the spotify app? Like is there any mapping or calling built in? And to lock hardware like this behind their premium subscription is wildly, not mildly infuriating.

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[–] Centaur@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Cars in 2030: to use brakes you need premium account. Sorry!

[–] lud@lemm.ee 23 points 1 year ago (4 children)

This thing that OP bought is a separate add-on to the car. As far as the car is concerned it doesn't exist and it's just plugged into a normal 3.5 mm aux device.

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[–] dzervas@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

I have the hobby of cracking stuff like that (but mainly windows apps to tell you the truth) and there are many-ish people out there with the same hobby. search around a bit and google stuff like "Spotify Car Thing github" or "Spotify Thing bypass" or jailbreak. Heavily rely on github and russian forums. Also random small blogs

If you're so determined though and nobody else has done it and you're fine not using it for 3+ months, there's a very slim chance that I could find the time to bypass it

EDIT: Yeap it's cracked and it's easy too

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[–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago

Wait, so let me get this straight.

You purchased a device that presumably has no local storage and are upset that it needs you to login to a server that can then stream you the music?

Or is this an issue of not having a paid account?

I guess Spotify didn't realize someone who didn't pay for Spotify would be likely to pay 100 bucks for a device to stream Spotify, and in most cases I'd say they're probably right.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 33 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Fuck streaming. Return to a big dumb pile of MP3s.

[–] Wogi@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is absurdly difficult if you want to actually pay for individual mp3s. It's like they want you to pirate

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Nice weather we're having.

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[–] ThePinkUnicorn@lemdro.id 31 points 1 year ago

Take a look at rooting it, maybe you can find some way to use it to stop it from just being e-waste. https://npjohnson.github.io/Spotify-Car-Thing-Root/

[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean to be fair, Spotify as a company clearly would rather give millions to right-wing shitheads than ~anything else.

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[–] atomicfox@lemm.ee 27 points 1 year ago (3 children)

And? Their site clearly states that a premium subscription is required.

[–] Bonskreeskreeskree@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And was that the case since it first went on sale?

[–] atomicfox@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago
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[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I betcha someone in the piracy groups can help you jailbreak that thing so it will continue to function.

Edit: Yep someone in the comments linked you a GitHub project that should work

[–] dinckelman@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (9 children)

I wouldn't have expected them to do it any other way. The only reason why Spotify is still around is because every bit of competition is even more incompetent and greedy than they are

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[–] bitwolf@lemmy.one 23 points 1 year ago

I don't use Spotify, but I selected a song on someone else's phone recently. The first time opening it in years and it opens up to an ad saying "buy our tshirts".

I couldn't help but think times must be hard 😅

[–] yuriy@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (9 children)

You literally can’t buy them anymore! Spotify quietly canned the project. Support pages are still up but I can’t find a purchase option anywhere.

I bought one pretty early into launch and even then they were already heavily discounted. It was a weird choice for a peripheral, but personally I really wish they had tried a bit harder instead of giving up outright

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[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

But weird, an android auto upgrade kit for my car would cost me 160. The Spotify thing is so not a good deal.

[–] Burp@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

FYI, those are known to be full of malware if you buy the random branded ones off Amazon. It’s Highly recommend that people go with known reputable brands.

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[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

You paid $100 to play music that you didn't own. It feels mean to put it that way, but it was never a foolproof plan if we're being honest.

[–] Google@lemmygrad.ml 24 points 1 year ago (6 children)

You'd be shocked to hear that people purchase radios for over $100 to listen to music they don't own.

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[–] dan@upvote.au 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

I don't understand the point of this device. Why not buy a replacement radio for the car instead? I bought a Pioneer one and it was a nice upgrade to my 2012 Mazda3 since I can plug in my phone to use Android Auto and get the screen to show Google Maps + pretty much any music app on my phone.

[–] giantofthenorth@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There's plenty of 2010-2015ish cars with dogshit radios that are hard to find, expensive to get or literally impossible to find good replacements for, thanks to vehicle manufacturers killing of the DIN system.

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[–] Carion@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyz 16 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Wait till they put Denuvo in the car, for you montly driving plan.

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