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[–] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 100 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

What he and others who make this argument refuse to comprehend is this: If the VP were allowed to pull a stunt like this, then we are essentially saying that the VP picks the next President of the United States. No need to hold an election; might as well just have Harris declare Biden the winner of 2024 already and let's just skip right to the swearing in. Heck, let's be efficient about it -- who wants to be President in 2028? Might as well have Harris declare the winner of that election too. Look at that; we've got the Presidency sorted out for the next decade or so, and we can spend the next few years prepping someone like AOC for the White House in 2032.

I mean that's the way it works, right? The VP can just unilaterally declare who did and didn't win the election, right GOP? Because if this is the rule you're gonna set forth, we might as well take full advantage of it......

[–] TheFogan@programming.dev 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Agreed to me it also seems just dumb for pence. By not commiting treason he's made an enemy of trump, and therefore trump supporters for life. He should really just court the anti-trump republicans rather than continuing to try and win back the unrecoverable trump base.

[–] PRUSSIA_x86@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

That seems to be his strategy so far. We'll see how well it works out.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Pence is a religious zealot. Never Trumpers are usually neocons that genuinely believe the bullshit they are peddling, not stereotypically dogwhistling racists and zealots, so he has nothing to offer them and, quite frankly, is probably too emotionally tied to being liked by his fellow Evangelicals to admit his one moment of morality was unforgivable to them.

[–] Fpsfrank85@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

No not like that!

[–] patachu@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

No, no, letting the VP pick any successor makes it too easy for them to game the system! We should come up with a completely objective, impartial method.

The oldest child of the current President becomes the next President.

[–] GreenMario@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Harris should absolutely threaten to do this if they don't shut the fuck up and stop trying to overthrow the country. Go full Dark Harris. Fuck it. The repugs already believe anyone NOT them is a Demon anyways.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Harris has been kind of an empty suit so far sl this would really help her image too.

[–] GreenMario@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Her purpose must be to prevent Biden assassination since killing him would make a Black Female (that's DOUBLE WOKE 😱) president.

Otherwise idk what she do.

[–] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 53 points 1 year ago (2 children)

As others are reporting, he also said he would have certified the results.

So he's mostly trying to have both ways.

[–] Unaware7013@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This is the same asshole who, after people calling him out for not being a voice for POC (aka 'skin folk ain't always kinfolk ') said that these were the words of the modern Grand Dragons. This fucking idiot is calling the left the KKK (as do all Republicans because they can't admit the ancestors of their party were the KKK) because he's just a brown voice for white supremacy and the party/culture of POC oppression and murder.

Vivek is the guy all the old white republicans are referring to when they backpedal and say “no, wait, what I just said isn’t racist because I have a friend who is a brown person!”

Vivek doesn’t realize that he’s that guy.

Also, knowing the GOP base’s predilections, I give him precisely 0% chance in the Republican primary.

[–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

He didn’t get the bump in polls he hoped for in the debate so he’s going more extreme. It’s a bold move but won’t help, and only dooms his chances of winning a general election by saying this.

[–] HotsauceHurricane@lemmy.one 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This dude sounds dangerous as fuck.

[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (4 children)

He has zero government experience, has never held a real job, and he doesn't understand how the nation operates. Pretty much a complete moron with money.

[–] candyman337@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago

He also pitched his campaign finding as a pyramid scheme. If you recruit people to fund his campaign, whatever they give to him, you get 10 percent back.

[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 year ago

Dude literally jumped into the Republican party pitching what they were all thinking

[–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That worked well for the last Republican presidential candidate to win.

[–] candyman337@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Yep, I'm done thinking ridiculous candidates have no chance in the country. He needs to stopped.

[–] NotSpez@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Why are you talking about Trump under a Ramaswamy post? ;)

[–] agentsquirrel@sh.itjust.works 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Well, he is correct in that it would have be historic. A bigger opportunity for Pence right now would be to have some balls and a backbone, call out Trump for the criminal, insurrectionist, and traitor that he is, and lead the Republican party back to its so-called morality, law-and-order, and "character matters" roots. I'm not a fan of Pence by any means (I totally disagree with him on nearly every issue), but this is the real historic tragedy of Pence and his political career.

[–] PickTheStick@ttrpg.network 0 points 1 year ago

That will never happen. What's that saying about republicans and falling in line? I don't think I've heard a really strong, public condemnation of a republican by a republican since John McCain passed. Fox news has, or maybe had, they are losing some viewers to the even more extreme channels now, every republican by the balls. None of them will risk being on the 'bad side' of the party and being hammered where every one of their voters tunes in.

[–] just_change_it@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is an intelligent guy. He isn't firing from the hip. He's saying what the party wants to hear to try and get more attention on him. I wonder if he's trying to be Trump's VP candidate.

I'm not saying I agree with any of his shit, just saying this is calculated on his part. I also don't really agree with Pence with much of anything, but certifying the election results and being against the Jan 6th insurrection is something I appreciate.

[–] Gatsby@discuss.online 4 points 1 year ago

I wonder if he’s trying to be Trump’s VP candidate.

I think that apart from Mike Pence and Chris Christie it's clear that none of these Republican candidates have any delusions of securing the GOP nomination. They're all auditioning to be Trump's VP and I guarantee they admit it in private. So I agree with you here. Ramaswamy is saying what he needs to in order to get Trump's attention and win over the MAGA crowd.

[–] vamp07@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My bullshit meter with Ramaswamy is off the charts. He will say anything if he thinks it will give him traction with the Trump crowd.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

This guy does not realize he's too brown for that shit

They will absolutely throw him in the gas chambers if he helps them get into power

Him, MTG, and Clarence Thomas should form a Leapords Eating Faces club.

[–] xc2215x@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, Pence did the right thing.

[–] ArugulaZ@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago
[–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

A historic opportunity to end American democracy??

[–] GingerPale@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What he’s talking about sounds like a mess. Single day voting on Election Day? What about people that are abroad, military or otherwise? People who can’t vote that day (medical procedure, etc). Then, having another election to decide again?! What if that one is in question? I don’t know shit about fuck when it comes to election law, but this doesn’t pass the sniff test at all.

[–] vamp07@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

The lack of sincerity of these candidates is becoming normalized. The same-day voting has nothing to do with what makes sense or not. What they are pitching is what historically will be most beneficial to their party. That is the real issue.

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

Here’s what I would have said, we need single-day voting on Election Day. We need paper ballots, and we need government-issued ID matching the voter file.

It's like he doesn't know that older, more conservative Republicans actually love mail-in ballots and use it extensively.

[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 6 points 1 year ago

He also put on full display his ignorance of how government works. Witch is OK since his followers are ignorant too.

[–] nieceandtows@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don’t understand what he’s saying. What’s his speech got to do with the events on Jan 6? What would that speech have done during the events of the 6th? Somebody please help me understand.

[–] HotsauceHurricane@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago

He would have overturned bidens win and given the country to the human toilet.

[–] bemenaker@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

"I would have committed TREASON on Jan 6th!!!!" -Ramaswamy