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Everyone in the tech industry facepalms almost every time legislators try to pontificate on technology, but the British government appears to be trying to set a new record. After putting iMessage and FaceTime at risk, the government is now suggesting that it might ban some Apple security updates.

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[–] amzd@kbin.social 39 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ok so Apple would have to disclose the vulnerability to follow proposed EU rules then can't implement the fix in UK? That seems like a disaster waiting to happen

[–] LeTak@lemm.ee 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Imagine Apple shares a patch and the UK does not approve the install. Ok nice. Now everyone knows a vulnerability that affects most of the Apple devices in UK. What could go wrong.

[–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Apple immediately ceases sales and support for all apple products in the UK.

[–] Powerpoint@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago

The UK did allow Brexit to happen, they haven't exactly been making the best decisions.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

https://www.justsecurity.org/87615/changes-to-uk-surveillance-regime-may-violate-international-law/

Linking to the original article and not an article summarizing the article.

TLDR The UK government wants service providers in the UK to request permission to apply updates including security updates. They may deny that permission for national security reasons.

Ie if the government wants it broken so they can keep exploiting it they will prevent anybody from getting patched.

[–] KelsonV@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago

I was expecting this to be a half-baked plan to block something using a less-than-half-baked definition that would also cover security updates.

The fact that someone actually thinks explicitly blocking security updates is a good idea is just appalling.

[–] BigVault@kbin.social 29 points 1 year ago

Hospital emergency rooms across the UK are likely to be declaring a major incident to deal with the rash of injuries caused by the force of facepalming and banging heads against desks throughout the tech sector.

The NHS is struggling enough as it is.

[–] BilboBargains@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Welcome to the world of British politics. When their advisor on drugs, the scientist prof David Nutt, pointed out that riding a horse is statistically known to be more dangerous than MDMA he was summarily dismissed from his post. These people don't want inconvenient facts to spoil their Victorian era conception of reality. So it will go with their absurd and pernicious spying charter.

[–] moosemoosemoose@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

Reminds me of a quote I have always enjoyed:

"We know no spectacle so ridiculous as the British public in one of its periodical fits of morality." Thomas B. MacCaulay

[–] lustrum@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This might have worked a decade ago. Companies are EXTREMELY hot on device patches now. I work for a big company and we have a week to install the latest iOS patches on our phone. We get regular updates when software is out. If windows gets a certain patch behind the system can't update, it requires a full flash.

The same with banning encryption, the average Joe might not care but big companies have a lot to protect in IP and legally. Imagine a US company wanting send IP to a UK company for design/validation/manufacturing. They just won't because our devices/networks will be vulnerable to IP being stolen

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 year ago

They would need to put the IP on a flash drive and hand deliver it like it was the 1970's.

[–] XTornado@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

They want to end the """British Empire""" once and for all. It's a long term plan that started with Brexit.

[–] randomperson@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Is Britain as relevant nowadays as people think tho?

[–] BilboBargains@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Every day we sink further into irrelevance. Look at the fate of Greece. Their culture and contributions to mathematics, philosophy and literature created the foundations of modern civilization. Now they are a holiday destination and not much else.

[–] Claidheamh@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, you guys don't even have holiday destination going for you. Good luck lads.

[–] BilboBargains@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

We're fucked!

[–] XTornado@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

I don't think , that's why the quotes on British Empire half joking, but let's be honest I am clueless here maybe they are more relevant than I think they are.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

When you have submarines with nuclear missiles on them, you remain pretty damn relevant.

[–] Lowered_lifted@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Lol @ their intelligence agencies telling them that this is a bad idea & them going ahead anyway

[–] VampyreOfNazareth@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

Add to the law that all politicians phone data must be shared with the tax payer.

[–] Aesthesiaphilia@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

Surveillance state.