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Hi everyone, i want to move from Windows to Fedora. I'm a noobie of linux, i want a OS that don't spy me but with softwares for daily base use and for delevop apllication. Someone can advise me if is the right choice or give another option? Sorry for my english :')

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[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Fedora is a good choice for this. The distros are by large all the same, and the ones that send Telemetry the most do it less than the Windows Calculator app as a whole.

Good luck with Fedora - One tip to keep in mind is if you don't like the look and feel of Fedora (it's by default GNOME), you don't have to jump ship to a new distro. Fedora has tonnes of skins, my favorite being KDE (image related). That said, try the default first! ~~

[–] 0therbit5@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Im telling you, you convince me just with the fact of the calculator, but the option to personalize the UI it's amaizing!! Thank you :D

[–] Adda@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Hey, most SW in the GNU/Linux world is designed to allow you to personalize it to your liking. And if you do not like what one application looks like, you can just switch to another which could suit you better. Bear in mind that desktop environments (GNOME, KDE, Cinnamon, etc. – the overall layout and look of your system) are just like other applications, in this sense. Fedora ships with the GNOME environment by default, but if you want something more customizable with the Windows-like layout (or any other layout, customize to the oblivion), KDE Plasma (shown above) could work for you as well. There are plenty of others desktop environment, each with their specifics and differences. Start slow, and if you feel adventurous, feel free to look around and try them.

That being said, Fedora should be a perfectly suitable GNU/Linux distribution for you to start with. After all, it is just an OS, allowing you to run the applications you work with. If you want to have a backup solution, start with dual-booting with Windows, possibly removing Windows later altogether, if you feel like it.

Many distributions (such as Fedora, Ubuntu, Arch Linux, etc.) will give you an option to send some basic telemetry data, but there usually is a way to opt-out, if telemetry is not off by default. And otherwise, the distributions themselves do not collect much data, if any (not the applications you use on them – that would depend on the application altogether, proprietary applications especially, of course).

[–] 0therbit5@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Thank you guys i read all your comments, im gonna install the os on my laptop that i use for develop no gaming :). So i think im trying few of them before decide which fit better for me. Thanks again

[–] v162@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

I use Fedora also for gaming and its nice because you always fresh kernel updates

[–] SrEstegosaurio@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

If you like it (and you can invest a tiny bit of time) I suggest you to play around with a few of them. Even some "rare" distros if you feel like that.

Have fun. c:

[–] poVoq@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

For gaming a bleeding edge rolling distro like Manjaro is slightly better, otherwise Fedora is a solid choice.

[–] SudoDnfDashY@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I would not reccomend Manjaro. It breaks often and is much less reliable than vanilla Arch or even Artix. Fedora is plenty bleeding edge enough for most gaming needs, Endeavour OS is a much better easy to use Arch based distro.

[–] morashon@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Are you speaking from experience or just repeating what you've heard? I've used Manjaro daily for over 2 years and haven't had an update bork my system ever, and I've even been on the testing channel for the past few months.

[–] SudoDnfDashY@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

From experience. When I was first starting out using Linux, I used Manjaro for around a month. It booked around twice, and I wasn't able to fix it the second time by uninstalling some packages.

[–] morashon@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

I just asked because I find a lot of people across Linux spaces who absolutely trash it but their only source is some plaintext website that reads like a stalker keeping track of every mistake the manjaro team has ever made.

I don't know how long ago "when i was first starting out using Linux" was, but if it was longer than I've used it I'd venture to say that they've improved stability since then. The only exception seems to be EOL kernels and Nvidia drivers, since AFAIK pamac-gui does absolutely nothing to warn users that their kernel is EOL which is a bizarre decision.

[–] SrEstegosaurio@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

Artix is my favourite Arch-based distro.

[–] loki@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

doesn't Arch already have a setup script now? I've also seen multiple helper scripts for Arch. Manjaro has had a lot of mishaps in the past, it may not be completely safe .

[–] Adda@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Arch has a setup script now. People say it is actually pretty good, if you know what you are doing. But that really is not something a newbie to the GNU/Linux world should be trying out (and planning to get any real work done with that system) unless they want to just have some fun. If you want some real work done on a working out-of-the-box system, using Arch setup scripts to install a clean Arch is definitely not the way. If one wants a working out-of-the-box Arch system (with all the Arch advantages but without any hassle connected to Arch installation), I would suggest going with ArcoLinux. Their excellent customized Calamares installer with plenty of options to choose from is a great way to get an Arch system working in no time. However, it is simply an Arch system, so you have to be prepared to solve the issues coming with a rolling distro and all that. Not a thing I would recommend to someone without the knowledge of Linux or the time to learn about Linux before the system can be used as a daily driver.

But I agree that there always seems to be some problems with Manjaro here and there. Endeavour OS seems as a good choice for a working Arch system, too. However, they are all just Arch Linux. I would not recommend them for a newbie unless there is a good reason to use only them and nothing else.

Therefore, I think that Fedora is a great choice for what is required in this case.

[–] poVoq@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Havn't had any issues with Manjaro for years and it is still a much nicer out of the box experience than any Arch installer provides.

[–] feddit@venera.social 2 points 2 years ago

@0therbit5 If you're familiar with Docker, you can run a Linux desktop inside container
docs.linuxserver.io/images/doc…

[–] feddit@venera.social 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago

Debian is great on the server, but definitely an unpleasant experience on the Desktop unless you know what you're doing and why you're doing it.

[–] Adda@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

I would say that Debian-based distros (Linux Mint and LMDE, preferably) are good for a newbie, too. But a clean Debian would probably be a bit too much of a hassle to set everything up, in my opinion.

[–] SudoDnfDashY@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

Especially if he's going to be doing some gaming, I've had great luck with the Debian Sid based distro Siduction.

[–] feddit@venera.social 2 points 2 years ago

@Adda Agreed with your point of view

[–] skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

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[–] d3ef@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

I've been using Fedora for over a year instead of windows, I'm happy with it. It's stable, easy to install the software I want, looks good. I'd say go for it!

Sometimes I think about distro hopping, but I think I'd rather do that on a second computer so that when I break it I'll still have a working one.

[–] blkpws@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You can try different kind of distros until you find the one that fits better for you. I was thinking to use Zorin OS for people that want to switch from Windows to Linux, and they basically need a word/browser/printer functions.

If you plan to keep playing games I recommend you Manjaro (as steam is using it to give support if I'm not wrong) or Garuda Linux which is like a Manjaro but more fancy. If you want a distro more nerdy you can try Artix with OpenRC which is also easy and fast, but you need some more knowledge.

I tried a lot of distros and I don't see anything special on Fedora or any other Debian based distros. I recommend you Arch based distro to be able to use AUR to easily install any kind of app, and you can add https://aur.chaotic.cx/ repos to install them without compilation/build process.

[–] Helix@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Fedora is not Debian based, but an upstream or 'sidestream' distribution of CentOS, based on the RPM package manager.

I'd say basically any distribution is a good starting point. Eventually after distrohopping you'll settle on one or two distributions which work for you.

I have Debian on my servers, Arch on my desktop (for games) and Fedora on my laptop.

[–] blkpws@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I know perfectly Fedora is not Debian... xD and I use Ubuntu or CentOS Stream 8/9 (I like more rolling releases distros) for servers and only Arch based for my personal computers or even on my Raspberry Pi.

I was saying, if you want something stable, Debian based sounds easy as Fedora has some security policy that can make it hard to do certain stuff. If you want a nice gaming desktop, Manjaro makes it easy to install all you need or even install custom kernels with Steam support.

[–] Helix@feddit.de 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I know perfectly Fedora is not Debian

Okay, but

I don’t see anything special on Fedora or any other Debian based distros

makes it sound like Fedora is one of the Debian based distributions, which is why I wanted to make that clear for others.

[–] blkpws@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Okay, sorry, I talk like everyone knows this.