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[–] theKalash@feddit.ch 56 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Because of "big toilet paper". They even tried to assassinate a spokesperson for japanes toilets.

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[–] Mothra@mander.xyz 50 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Today you have the bidets you can install on your toilet, but traditionally they were a thing on its own, that required about as much space as a toilet and all the extra pipework associated with it.

In some European/ Mediterranean countries (I suspect France may have started the trend) this caught on well, and bidets were a must have in most houses that had toilets as part of their main architectural structure. Most people in South America had bidets this way, it's rare to see a house without at least one bidet, and this comes from the culture inherited from colonial times .

Now, things are different in othe parts of the world. England seems to traditionally have the toilet separate from the house and for some reason the bidet trend never caught on. This is in turn reflected both in USA and Australia. I don't know about bidet popularity across all of Europe, but this is definitely a cultural thing and I suspect distance and language may have kept UK without bidets until relatively recently. And as you know, old habits die hard, so... Yeah in Australia I use the shower.

[–] Rescuer6394@feddit.nl 20 points 1 year ago (3 children)

in Italy, there is literally a law obligating houses to have a bidet. the separated from the toilet kind.

[–] Mothra@mander.xyz 7 points 1 year ago

Just another reason to like Italy even more.

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[–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

brit here.

can confirm. i sit on the side of the bath and wash my arse with the shower. The only house i have seen in the UK with a bidet was essentially a mansion

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[–] Sludgeyy@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago (3 children)

No one understands what a bidet really is.

In the old days, they were a separate free-standing device. Not a lot of people have space or money to add one of these types of bidets to their bathrooms

Now they make them as toilet seat attachments that don't require extra space and really aren't that expensive.

But people don't know. Older people will be like, "Oh a bidet? No I don't want another toilet like device in my bathroom"

So that gets rid of all those people.

Next you have the people that know about the new style bidets that's just a fancy toilet seat.

Their biggest deterrent is probably cold water. Spraying cold water on their butt doesn't appeal to most people.

You can get bidets that heat the water, but you have to have power behind your toilet, which not everyone has.

Then you have older people that just can't work them or don't feel like they can. Like my grandfather, I installed one with all the bells and whistles for him. Yet hitting a button and doing all that was too complicated. He was 90+ and could barely use a cell phone for basic functions. But he'd rather wipe his butt like he knew than mess with the "complicated" bidet.

Eventually everyone is going to own a bidet, it really is the way to go.

We just aren't there yet.

[–] cubedsteaks@lemmy.today 15 points 1 year ago (8 children)

For me it's because I have had to suffer from UTI's before and I don't want to risk some stream of water blowing bacteria into my vagina and then I gotta pee every five seconds and wait for a damn doctor visit because for some fucking reason UTI meds aren't over the counter where I live.

I can buy the UTI "pain reliever" over the counter but it just temporarily fixes the pain, and the UTI of course continues. Pretty fucking pointless.

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[–] Catfish@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have a seat one that only does cold water and it hits different in the summer honestly. Sometimes you just need a splash of cold water in your asshole to keep going.

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[–] aCosmicWave@lemm.ee 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The utopian city of Atlantis sunk due to bidet overuse.

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[–] Wahots@pawb.social 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think the answer is just that most don't know about them, having grown up in homes without them. They are quite nice though.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

They may also be perceived as too expensive, if they only know of full toilet replacement kinds and not the seat replacements you can get for less than $100.

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[–] AttackBunny@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

There are a large number of Americans that think:

  1. Anything touching them there makes them gay - still not sure how your hand and TP is any different
  2. It will hurt - yeah...... IDK
  3. It's gross, or it doesn't get you clean - uh.....wiping some paper on it does? how?!?!!?
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[–] Immersive_Matthew@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think you me question is missing some key words. “Why isn’t the use of the bidet more widespread in the USA and other western countries?”

I am in Vietnam right now and nearly every bathroom has a bum gun to wash your bits. When I was in Japan nearly every bathroom had bits to wash you built into the toilet seat with digital controls. These are not just in homes and nice places, but also at 7-11, train stations, airports and even hole in the wall places. Wish USA/Canada had this as we all know how much it sucks when out and you have a forever wipe.

[–] ferralcat@monyet.cc 8 points 1 year ago

Bum gun >>> bidet

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[–] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I was overseas and recovering from surgery. I'd never seen a bidet before arriving in Argentina a few days before, so I still wasn't used to them.

In any case, I was sitting on this bidet at 3am or something, on painkillers, and almost falling asleep while I sit there. I'm leaning forward, and turn the bidet, and it turns out this bidet has a jet of water almost powerful to reach the roof. And because of the angle I was sitting at, I get this jet of high pressure water right on my clit. I'm pretty sure the noise I made woke most of the neighbours! It was not a fun experience

That being said, I'd still get one here in Australia if I could :)

[–] Default_Defect@midwest.social 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A bidet can find the clit and I can't? WTF

/s

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[–] MudSkipperKisser@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I found that discovery to be a highly welcome one personally

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[–] Loce@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Big TP conspiracy :)

[–] Madex@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago

Americans voted for him though

[–] leprasmurf@lemmy.geekforbes.com 13 points 1 year ago (6 children)

American here. Thanks to woot regularly selling them, I have a bidet on each toilet in the house. I have a battery operated travel bidet, because now I'm hooked.

It has certainly led to.... "Interesting" responses from house guests. There's always TP in stock, so it's not required. Butt I'm never going back if I can help it.

[–] richieadler@lemmy.myserv.one 6 points 1 year ago (4 children)

There's always TP in stock, so it's not required.

That's always weird to read. For me bidets are for after, not instead of.

[–] GregoryTheGreat@programming.dev 8 points 1 year ago (6 children)

After TP? Why? TP is for drying and a double check.

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[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I once read a book where this particular bathroom appliance was very intimately connected with prostitutes throughout history and that association created a big push against having it in every house. It was an interesting read.

In my country in particular, it became mandatory in every newly built house starting around the 50s and later it became mandatory to have one bidet and one bathtub in every house.

This was pushed to enforce a notion of hygiene that was lacking, as the country was very poor at the time. Paradoxically, it was easier to have higher standards of hygiene in the country, where access to water was easier and the field labour demanded a minimal cleanliness to be at the table and socially than in the growing cities, where poor living conditions made very difficult for the poor to access running water.

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[–] stinkypoopsalot@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

In America? Because we are barbarians.

I kinda think that’s why we are all so pissed and ornery most of the time….because our tushes are dirty.

[–] MeanEYE@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's a matter of planning and availability. In my country people don't renovate their houses often and even rarely build them from scratch. Having a bidet requires planning and leaving space for it. Japanese style toilet seats are easier to install in smaller toilets, but they require electricity and/or hot water.

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[–] DannyMac@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

IDK because they rock. I love mine. I'm even cool with the water being cold.

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[–] woodcroft@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I’ve read that one reason could be due to prostitution during WWI / WWII.

Americans saw bidets over in Europe during the war, mainly at brothels, which gave them the idea they were unclean, non-Christian, idk. Maybe if you said you liked bidets then everyone knew you had been to a brothel.

I didn’t fact check it. Doesn’t really matter - I’m taking a poop right now and I’m about to blast the poop away with my Toto. Eat this pleasant, warm water, turd balls.

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[–] brockpriv@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago (8 children)

I paid for a 250$ bidet toilet seat and i don't even use it. How is it supposed to work? My stool are soft sometimes, and even with the bidet pressure to the max, it doesn't fully clean it. I'm left with dripping wet ass covered with shit. Then i need to use toilet paper that's literally melting from all that water on my ass. As a result i use 3x more toilet paper and my hands gets dirty. Very unpleasant.

Am i using it wrong?

[–] Galex1223@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I believe you are, yes. I once stumbled upon this thread on Reddit , it kinda explains it well ! The

oo*o Is pretty accurate. I've been using my bidet for around 2 years now and never once have I been in your situation. Now, I feel sad and dirty when I'm far from my bidet.

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[–] acutfjg@feddit.nl 9 points 1 year ago (14 children)

It does sound like you're using it wrong. I've been using a $70 bidet attachment for 8+ years and it was the best decision I've made for personal hygiene.

Use toilet

Use bidet, making sure to adjust your position so the stream hits your o and the area immediately around it. Whatever poo may touch while going.

Use toilet paper to dry.

If you're spraying parts of your bum where poop doesn't even reach then you need to adjust the spray. I've used so much less toilet paper this way.

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[–] tooclose104@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago

You have to make sure you're adjusting yourself so the stream kisses your * and definitely do the 00*0

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[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Believe it or not. Homophobia plays a substantial part in it.

Hell we got men who refuse to wipe at all for fear it makes them gay if anything touches their anus.

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[–] redempt@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

toilet paper mafia.

[–] Royal_Bitch_Pudding@ttrpg.network 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My nephews thinks it's weird/gay.

They're good boys, they're also idiots though.

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[–] kowcop@aussie.zone 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I have never even seen one (Australian)

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[–] xtremeownage@lemmyonline.com 7 points 1 year ago

Perhaps people feel homophobic or something about having water squirted on their ass?

Idk. I love my bidet. Especially when you have those wonderful shits with the consistency of clay that sticks to everything.

A few squirts, and a quick wipe of TP, and all done!

I got one during the "TP Crisis" during 2020ish. Drastically cuts down on the amount of TP required, and does a much better job of cleaning.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

according to south park it's because of toilet paper companies

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