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PC Master Race

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Results of the PCMR Name Change Survey (lemmy.world)
submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by CatZoomies@lemmy.world to c/pcmasterrace@lemmy.world
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Hello PCMR community!

On July 13th, we asked the community for your opinion if you would like to change the name of this community.

Results of the Survey :

  • Yes - 28.1%
  • No - 71.9% (winner)

Of the 1,201 responses received, we as a community have democratically decided that we should not change the name from PC Master Race. I am grateful to our community for your input, as this was a difficult topic to navigate together.

If you would like to review the history of this, please check out this post here: https://lemmy.world/post/1430610

We'll pin this post for some time and then consider adding a bullet into the sidebar for this Community to help stave off further discussions around this topic as the community has already decided collectively.

Kind regards,

The Moderator Team

@Hurts@lemmy.world @_MoveSwiftly@lemmy.world @Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world @IowaMan@lemmy.world @BobaFett26@lemmy.world @The_Vampire@lemmy.world @Fudgeknuckles98@lemmy.world @CatZoomies@lemmy.world @Xeon@lemmy.ml @geosoco@kbin.social

EDIT 30-Aug-2023:

Due to some of the recent targeted attacks against Lemmy.world, I noticed that the image I shared with this post was purged from their servers.

Here's a new screenshot of the results for posterity: https://i.postimg.cc/jqNg5gWx/pcmrsurvey.png

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[–] CatZoomies@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

What should you do if you are unhappy with the results of this survey?

  • I understand you are disappointed. This is how democratic decisions work, and is the reality of the situation.
  • My opinion here is for you to take a moment to look inward and decide for yourself how you want to proceed.
  • If the name of this community bothers you, my recommendation is to do the only thing you can do as a person: make a choice and opt out.
  • There are other communities you can join and collaborate in. You can always spin up a new community in the Fediverse, on any instance out there, and create new content to attract users.
  • However, if you are okay with accepting that the name of this community will not change, stay with us. We'd love to have you here.

Final notes to remember:

  • We are all gamers. We are all united by our varying levels of PC enthusiasm. Let's stay united in our hobbies, rather than allowing ourselves to become divided. Seems like these days there is so much division all across the world, all across social media, in our news, etc.
  • For all the evils out there in the world, this is a safe place for us.
  • Every person on this planet out there has a different opinion. Remember to be kind to others, even when no one is watching you.
[–] Sternout@feddit.de 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is how democratic decisions work

the only thing you can do as a person: make a choice and opt out

This is wrong

A democratic decision doesn't make it just or moral. You always have a right to protest.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

And it's not just about what you have the "right" to do. You're capable of moves like maneuvering to take control of its parent instance, starting a new alternative community, lobbying real governments that wield hard power to brutally suppress anyone using a name involving "master race". Or buy up a bunch of PS5s and give them away to people who are on the fence about whether to get a console or PC.

Not that I want the name to change myself, but don't try to limit what our opponents can do about it. Who knows, maybe their practice here will give them experience that will help overthrowing other oppressive regimes.

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[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 187 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Folks seem to be missing why PCMR is even a thing. It is a tongue in cheek representation of PC users during the console brand fights of PS2/Xbox though PS4/Xbox One. The idea is that PC users sneer down on console users and don't see the precarious position we are in with our bloated upfront costs to entertainment.

It was never meant for a direct "PC is superior" idea - in fact it's making the statement that PC users are silly and take themselves too seriously.

[–] ours@lemmy.film 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And over the last few years that upfront cost has gone up insanely between everything costing more during COVID and GPU pricing miking gamers first during the crypto craze and now with the AI one.

[–] CaptPretentious@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Though, the insane scalping also shot PS5 prices stupid high too.

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[–] Astroturfed@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

We are the master race. Bow before the PC.

[–] UnlimitedRumination@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I was really tempted to reply to this:

Is that the famous goatse image I see everyone talking about? If not could someone link it so I can finally find out what the big deal is?

I'm glad I stopped myself from impulsively commenting that.

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[–] Nioxic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We just want people to enjoy what they have, the best way they can.

Im fine with console gamers too. (I collect consoles, they are great!)

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[–] lowleveldata@programming.dev 86 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Good for you, gamers. We programmers have lost the master branch forever.

[–] PoopingCough@lemmy.world 50 points 1 year ago (6 children)

This may be an unpopular opinion, but as someone who just started programming like 2 years ago, main makes more sense and is a more approachable name to me than master

[–] CaptPretentious@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago (2 children)

George going to change anything that made sense is then git, trunk would have made most sense (or something along those lines). Since your project can have many branches... Tree puns!

But changing it after the product was out dumb idea regardless of whatever makes sense and what doesn't. It was blatant pointless virtue signaling that broke some automation and makes a bunch of documentation needlessly confusing (someone just starting out and seeing main but the book they bought to learn says master... Now has to find out why).

[–] elephantium@lemmy.world 50 points 1 year ago (1 children)

pointless virtue signaling

What do we want? An end to blatant racist murders by police!

What do we get? Rename our git branches!

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Why not both?

[–] MolochAlter@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Cause one of the two is fucking stupid.

The word "Master" isn't exclusively tied to slavery and to deem it offensive on those grounds pretty much guarantees you're American and have an understanding of history that makes any actually educated person want to vomit.

A Master branch, like a master copy of a recording, is the reference copy against which others are measured, it's not a master in the sense of ownership but in the sense of benchmarking, like a master of a craft.

[–] bastion@feddit.nl 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This. And even if it were a matter of control, 'master' is a valid terms for that. It is perfectly fine for one piece of technology to utterly control another. It is not fine to do that with humans.

Cutting out the vocabulary just makes it so that when we run into a real situation, we feel like we can't talk about it.

I will keep vocabulary, and keep history, because that's how we know the reasons for the ways we've changed. Blotting things out of our conceptual vocabulary just makes the next generation susceptible.

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[–] elscallr@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The concept of a master branch reaches back to CVS (that's Concurrent Version System, not a pharmacy), and Subversion. Makes sense it wouldn't make sense to you. Frankly it doesn't make sense to git at all, but that's a much larger discussion.

[–] Intralexical@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The concept of a "master copy" has been around and in widespread use for around a century. It has nothing to do with either software nor social (in)justice. It's just the thing you photocopy so you don't end up making photocopies of photocopies. IMO It should make sense to anyone who, you know, has seen and used paper within their lifespan.

Some terminology, like "master and slave" for IO between devices, did always used to make me really uncomfortable whenever I heard it. But the branch name for software was probably fine.

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[–] Hazzia@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

We still use SVN at my current job. I hated it at first because I was so used to Git, but then recently I tried git again for a personal project and couldn't stand it. I can't even tell how much of my opinions about it are actually fact based, and how much is based on "it's different than what I'm used to and therefore it's bad" anymore.

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[–] Intralexical@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wait, what? When did this even happen (in general)?

Ah, screw this. I'll probably keep "master" in anything that currently has it, and the next time I start something I'll just go back to calling it "trunk" even though I was too young at that point to actually call it trunk, but it makes the most sense for the organization flow.

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[–] pomodoro_longbreak@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago

Good riddance. Main branch master race. And I'm a vim user, so I usually love archaic bullshit

[–] smokedclover@feddit.de 86 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

PC Monetary Regret

[–] Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 year ago

PCRM = Personal Computer Makes Rainbows

Motto: More RBG, more FPS

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago

The first PC I purchased with my own money:

  • CPU: AMD Duron 1600, tray, $45
    • Cache unlock with silver paint, $10
    • OC to 2.3GHz
    • Zalman 7000, $40
  • Motherboard: ECS N2U400, NForce2, $56
    • Volt mod via trim pot (no volt control in BIOS), $5
  • Memory: second hand mix, $50
  • HDD: Maxtor 40GB, second hand, $??
  • Case: beige box from my last hand-me-down PC, $0
  • PSU: Fortron (FSP), second hand, $20
  • GPU: Radeon 9550, $60
    • BIOS mod to 9600
  • RGB: 🤦🤦‍♀️🤦‍♂️

Half-Life 2, Doom 3 go brrr, no regrets

Total: $320 or $530 in today's money

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[–] Disgusted_Tadpole@lemmy.ml 61 points 1 year ago

The fact this poll was necessary makes me really sad

[–] Dettweiler42@lemmyonline.com 49 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For all the people that don't understand where there name of the community came from, here is the video that started it all: https://youtu.be/P0dXtOVi2yo?si=Vlxetg3tmkjWGE70

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[–] AbsolutelyNotCats@lemdro.id 34 points 1 year ago

Damn I missed it. Glad most of us (more precisely 71.9% of us) have good taste.

Long live PCMR

[–] Holodeck_Moriarty@lemm.ee 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I love democracy

[–] CatZoomies@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Senator Palpatine intensifies

[–] DrownedAxolotl@lemmy.ml 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

My God, this is still going on. I'm still having trouble comprehending whether this is just a very elaborate parody. The term "master race" is not in any way offensive and even if it is (to a small amount of people) they are perfectly within their right to be offended, but not to ban other people from using it.

[–] sloppy_diffuser@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Have not been there to see the discussion, but I have been seeing the shift the last couple years in tech on termonology.

Branch Names: master -> main

Distributed Systems: master/slave -> primary/secondary

Security: Blacklist/Whitelist -> Blocklist/Allowlist

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[–] Lt_Cdr_Data@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I hate the 2020s. Can we just go back a couple years, back when meme pages didnt have sticks up their arses?

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[–] coffeebiscuit@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (4 children)

So no PCübermachines?

[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I put together a server once as a favor for someone at a university. This person didn't know how to change the hostname so I set it to "killbot9000". For years that whole lab had to log into killbot9000. (I'm sure they could have figured out how to change the name if they tried - I guess they thought it was funny too.)

Anyway my point is that I should have called it "ubermachine" and now I will live with this regret for the rest of my life.

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[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

MEHRZWECKCOMPUTERÜBERMENSCH, bitte.

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[–] regalia@literature.cafe 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

We need something more humble, like PC god mode

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[–] ackzsel@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

Personal Computer Main Race!

[–] maniel@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

TF is that browser?!

[–] Lemmyboi@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Firefox with a theme applied

[–] hal_5700X@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

The theme is called, Firefox Alpenglow. It's a preinstalled theme.

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