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[–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They're not your friends, even if they act like that.

The management just sees you as expense factor and does not care about you except for how to get the most work done for the least amount of money. Your team leader does not care about you and only cares if their numbers look good. Your colleagues do not care about you and only see you as competition or the idiot they can give their work to.

If someone is nice to you they want something from you not because they like you.

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[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The "family" talk is only just talk. If an employer says "we're family here" or some similar nonsense, it's not family as in "we stick together through everything" - what a family actually is or should be.... It's more of a farengi perspective...

Rule of acquisition 111: "Treat people in your debt like family… exploit them."

And rule 6: "Never allow family to stand in the way of opportunity." (Which is also cited as "Never allow family to stand in the way of profit")

Fact is, they want you to be family in the way that you'll do anything for them, like you would for your own family. But when it comes time that you need them to help you out like a family would, they'll show you the door very quickly.

Related: if you're hit by a bus tomorrow, your job will be posted before your obituary. You're just a cog in their money printing machine. As soon as you lose your value in that regard, you're gone. If you slow down the machine too much, they'll find a cog that is more easily lubricated (to push the analogy). If you're broken and can't work, they'll replace you without a thought. Management is there to put a nice face on the company (for your benefit) and make it seem less like you're a number; but that's all you are.

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[–] GarfieldYaoi@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago

Everyone has a right to be lazy except for you.

Recruiters do nothing except tell people "no" when they need a job, and companies aren't really looking for new people otherwise they wouldn't turn down someone for not meeting ALL of their ridiculous demands.

Capitalism gets IN THE WAY of hard work, and sees hard workers as suckers, rather than rewards it.

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

We have nothing to lose but our chains.

[–] pwnstar@sopuli.xyz 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

During covid: the government paid me more than my employer to sit around and do nothing, so I had zero incentive to go back to work.

Lesson learned: Get a better employer

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[–] IWantToFuckSpez@kbin.social 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It’s about who you know. Don’t socially isolate your self even when you are great at your job. Being invisible is a sure fire way to be overlooked when it comes to promotions or a raise. Also being likable means your colleagues will more likely have your back and root for you.

A couple of months ago there was a post on Reddit of a Gen Z person who hated when people would say a simple good morning to them. They rather walk into work, sit down, do their work and go home without talking to anyone. And a lot of other Gen Z people agreed with them. Crazy that they don’t understand how the β€œgame” works, nobody is going to root for you when you act like that. Also no wonder Gen Z is struggling with loneliness.

[–] robotrash@lemmy.robotra.sh 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Let's not start shitting on the next generation, please. We promised to be better, so let's make an attempt at empathy yeah? IDK how old you are but keep in mind they're inheriting a dying planet, late stage capitalism, and in general, hopelessness. I'm very securely in the millennial range and we were also shit on heavily when entering the workforce. Be better.

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[–] dipshit@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Document absoluely everything. Get every agreement in writing. If someone tells you to do something in a meeting, follow it up with an email response confirming the action. Keep a copy of those emails. If it’s not written, it didn’t happen.

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[–] JingJang@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lots of meta-level comments here so I'll add one that's more in the weeds:

In an office job, it's always good to be friendly with IT and the office manager/administrative assistant.

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[–] Fuckass@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Company time should be used to shit, piss, walk around mindlessly, and search for a better job.

[–] ImmortanStalin@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 1 year ago

How's the saying go? They make a thousand, I make buck. Let's steal the catalytic converter from the company truck.

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[–] throws_lemy@lemmy.nz 17 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Employee : This is the report you asked about

Boss : Good job! Now, I have another task for you..

Employee : ....

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[–] candyman337@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If you're doing more than you're supposed to do, or doing things outside of normal work time, no matter what DOCUMENT IT. If they're a good employer, they'll compensate and reward you, if they're a bad employer you can leave and it'll be easier to update your resume by referencing your own documentation

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[–] Bulletdust@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 year ago

Find a new job before those new owners take over the business.

[–] Clbull@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

If you get placed on a PIP (Performance Improvement Plan), it's better to resign and look for another job than to fight the process.

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[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (4 children)
  • You are more important than the company, put you and your family first.

  • If your company doesn't provide a pension plan you have no reason to be loyal and stay.

  • Telework is an excuse for minimal working. Most remote workers schedule emails, get their work done quickly than spend the work day doing personal work on the clock.

  • Charisma is more important than performance for career progression.

  • Favorite employees are typically the easiest to be manipulated and taken advantage of.

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[–] Reddfugee42@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

The company has an obligation to find workers who don't know their worth and continue to do more work without more compensation. Take the additional work, get them used to doing it, and get that raise at the next annual review, or leave.

[–] vandermouche@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago (8 children)

There is no such things as the employer will provide a safe working environment. They don't care, it even more true when your safety cost them money.

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[–] Kodemystic@lemmy.kodemystic.dev 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

When Im working hard to get somewhere in the company I get shit from people:

"ThE cOmPaNy dOeSn'T cArE aBoUt YoU...."

Yeaah I fucking know the company doesn't care. But its not like I'm getting a different and better role + a better salary if I just work the bare minimum and give zero shits about everything. In the end some people just work harder for selfish reasons, I doubt its for company loyalty or Love of flowers.

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[–] Grownbravy@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago

Knowing enough of the process makes it incredibly easy to slack off, and that should always be the goal.

[–] HeartyBeast@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A central purpose of doing your job is to train yourself up to do the job you would prefer - either at the company you are with - or more likely at another.

Spend your time on interesting new skills

[–] Azzu@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (14 children)

Doesn't work, the job I'd prefer would be no job.

Or idk, professional with-friends-chiller, or people-get-to-knower, or world-seer, or randomly-on-piano-player, or casual-video-games-player.

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[–] muddi@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There is so much internal politics, especially in larger companies.

I'm on the team that manages the core functionality of the product, but every other team twists our arms and escalates things all the way to the top-levels just so they can do things in the way they are used to or they just prefer. Apparently the other managers are aiming for promotions so it's a power grab. Meanwhile, the product turns to shit, my team gets blamed, we lose money, people like me who do the actual work get laid off (thankfully I haven't yet but idk)

Smaller companies are nicer, but they still have politics. Honestly I've been in cooperatives too and there is still some politics. I guess it's just the capitalist alienation between workers

[–] TheKaul@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Dominant personalities and work styles almost always make it up to management.

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[–] dobeltip@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Coworkers is not my friend. Someone being so sad when i left and got a better job lol.

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