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[–] appel@lemmy.ml 45 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Whenever someone calls something "socialist", ask them to explain socialism to you and watch their argument fold like a wet blanket. They usually have no idea. In fact, many would love a healthy dose of Northern European socialism in their lives, as long as you call it "Owningthelibism" or something.

This is why we can't have nice things.

[–] Tetsuo@jlai.lu 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I had multiple times experiences like that with American redditors.

They would say that socialism is nazism because National Socialism.

So yeah, didn't know really what to answer to such level of ignorance.

[–] AntifaSuperWombat@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

"Learn how German Komposita work, you illiterate dipshit!" is a pretty straightforward and effective reply.

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Capitalism with social programs is better than without, but that's not socialism. It's just not neoliberalism.

[–] Milk_SDF_Possum@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

What makes countries where the State has high power fail then?

[–] masquenox@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (8 children)
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[–] XEAL@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

Bless the cold war brainwash with loads if patriotism on USA citizens. It seems to still be working.

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There are "socialists" running around who don't know what socialism is. Hint: it has nothing to do with government-subsidized services.

[–] InputZero@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah but they're still linked. Like, yeah socialism has nothing to do with welfare programmes. However in the real world where a government is involved government welfare programmes are the most obvious tools that the government uses to enact socialism. Talking about one leads into talking about the other. Unless we're talking anarchy.

Attica! Attica!

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

While that's technically true. It's not truly accurate. Considering that at the time a lot of these terms were coined. Healthcare was either nonexistent or a much different thing. Nationalizing basic needs makes a lot of sense in, and is often an agenda of socialist and communist systems.

Just because they don't match or evolved past those archaic definitions doesn't make you more right or them less ultimately. We might large that they should go further. But there's no true Scotsman Naval gazing is only counterproductive.

[–] IHateReddit@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (4 children)
[–] VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Woke socialist mob" when they're extra scared

[–] odium@programming.dev 9 points 1 year ago

*"Woke rainbow pedo socialist mob"

[–] rustyfish@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

„Seize the means of wokeness lmao.”

  • Karl Marx
[–] andrew@lemmy.stuart.fun 4 points 1 year ago

That's the OG book cover from this meme I think.

[–] GreenMario@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

The opposite is sleep.

[–] Draegur@lemm.ee 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

i love all kinds of socialist shit:

socialized medicine

socialized housing

socialized transportation

you know what kinda' socialism SUCKS though? Socialized risk, where corporations get to distribute their burdens but hoard all their profits.

THAT kind of socialism needs to fucking die.

[–] Noughmad@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

Socialized anything is not socialism either. It's just social policies.

[–] alcoholicorn@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

Everything I like is socialist, trains? Socialist. Gardening? Socialist. Cooking a huge meal where someone else does the dishes? That's socialism.

[–] Utter_Karate@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

I like that engine.

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