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When I first started using Lemmy it seemed like such a nice place with interesting discussions. It seemed like the first group of people to join after the app exodus were being quite careful to be respectful of the existing culture.

Now, it seems as though the culture from Reddit has completely replaced it. Toxicity and all. I will say I do follow a lot of communities from a wide range of instances so it's clearly not everywhere.

Am I the only one who's feeling like we've just stormed in and bulldozed Lemmy?

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[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Unpopular opinion, but I really hate the soft bubble space every social media is becoming and welcome the freedom of speech. I'm not saying people should be harassing each other, but it is nice knowing I could call someone a fucking dumbass when they're being one and not expect an IP ban.

[–] Spiracle@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

Yes and no. I’d prefer user choice/curating your own list of instance you interact with.

However, each community also adds further burden on moderation. The communities you allow affect the culture, and some are very clearly more trouble than others.

My current solution would be to have multiple accounts for different sections of the fediverse. Currently I only have a generic Kbin and a Lemmy account, but if you find a Lemmy instance that’s federated with the broader free-speech spectrum without just veering into insane territory itself, I’d be interested.

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[–] silvercove@lemdro.id 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Yes it has. You can see this in political discussions very easily. There are too many people (mostly Americans) who are accusing everyone of being a Russian bot. This did not exist a year ago.

[–] Maeve@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

American here and I’ve seen it. The biggest turnoff is “tankie” bashing.

[–] squiblet@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I had heard the term before, but I never figured out wtf a “tankie” was supposed to be until about a month ago when I joined Lemmy. It seems to be part of the Europification of US politics, which is interesting but perhaps not a positive trend.

[–] Maeve@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

My point is, you don’t have to accept an idea to consider it. I’ve heard good and bad from them. You know, like most people.

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[–] danhakimi@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You mean the circle-jerk of six tankies talking about how the West is the definition of evil? Is that the former Lemmy culture you're talking about? I don't remember there being anything worth mourning.

[–] quinkin@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Tragedy of the commons.

[–] maegul@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

From what I can gather it isn’t true that Reddit culture has completely supplanted what came before, but it has definitely shifted things overall, both mixing to some extent. Scale is part of that though, as is the filtering mechanisms provided by a relatively niche platform.

Antagonistic downvoting (I’m now basically against downvoting I think), superficial statements, especially those that are dismissively in disagreement to the point of unpleasantness or abusiveness … I’d say I’ve seen more of all these things.

One effect, I think, is the establishment of Reddit replacement communities and their gaining large membership which has shifted the centre of gravity here. The whole of lemmy.world being an example.

Besides all of that, I’d say I’ve seen the generally or more frequently presumed set of “obvious” opinions shift toward the mainstream, which isn’t surprising at all, but with a slightly ruder and superficial form of engagement (at times at least), it’s rather tiring.

[–] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee -3 points 1 year ago (5 children)

It's most likely just a phase, though it doesn't help I made something for it.

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[–] atlasraven31@lemm.ee -4 points 1 year ago

The Reddit refugees came to Lemmy and made content. And everyone had a good time, except the occasional people that bitch about toxicity.

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