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If not, how much would you counteroffer?

(If you aren't an American, assume for this hypothetical that you were suddenly granted citizenship and all other requirements are waived.)

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[โ€“] Hazzia@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 1 year ago

Lmao fuck no. If I'm president I'm already making wayyy more money than I ever aimed for, legally. After I retire I can just make money selling book or w/e.

I can barely even stand taking orders at my normal, chill job. Imagine how fuckung aweful it would be if it wasn't just "fix this bug while making this feature and write a presentation about it" but "enact bad public policy while managing the unknown political landscape in our favor and attending to all other expected duties". Once again I say "fuck no."

[โ€“] holland@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's a seriously low amount of money for this. Most Presidents will make much more than this out of office in just speaking fees and the normal grifting and graft that happens around them. You'd be endangering your ability to make so much more money in the future if that was your goal.

[โ€“] intensely_human@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No I would not take that. The rich life of being a 4-to-8-millionaire would not be worth the self disgust and guilt Iโ€™d feel over knowing Iโ€™d sold out my country.

[โ€“] nuxetcrux@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

What about 9-to-12 mil?

[โ€“] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

People don't become president because they want to get rich; most of them are already rich, and could make more money if they were working in the private sector. (Although being an elected national politician has great benefits, like pensions, security details, health benefits that are far better than almost anything you'd get privately, etc.) In most cases, they want power. So you're going to need to offer some kind of equivalency.

At a certain point, money becomes raw power, but it's not when it's just a million here or there, not anymore. After all. the president may not have huge amounts of money, but he has the ability to suggest that the DoJ to start investigating you.

[โ€“] juliebean@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

if i'm president, didn't i almost certainly take such a deal already?

[โ€“] Astroturfed@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

You can earn a million dollars a year being on the board of a few companies and doing some speaking engagements as a former president. They also get I believe 200k a year, for the rest of their lives. I'm not sure what amount of money it'd take to make me give up my ethics as the president but it'd definitely need to be at least double digit millions a year, probably in perpetuaty before I was even tempted.

Former presidents/politicians on general normally fall into easy money gigs for whoever they were kind to during their term(s). Goldman Sachs routinely gives six figure single event speaking fees to former and presidential hopefuls. Sometimes they don't even have to show up and give the speech... Bribery is just strait up legal in America and a lot of the time you don't even explicitly have to do anything for them. They're just happy if you don't rock the boat.

[โ€“] Icalasari@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If I was president, something went horribly wrong as I'm Canadian

[โ€“] Melkath@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This prompt hurts my brain.

You are the President of the United States.

You are the leader of a nation. Hundreds of millions of people are depending on you.

How many tootsie rolls would it take you to sell out to a rich fuck who has that many tootsie rolls?

Fuck you. I have 4 years. We need to kick our fossil fuel addiction. People deserve privacy. Domestic terrorists need to feel fear again. The government needs to be reminded it serves the people...

Let me drive the bargaining up to 100 million, then let me shove a red hot fire poker up your ass and leave you in a dank cell to die aching.

Then let me live a decent life where I might not feel the excess of being rich, but my diner tabs are paid for, my bar tabs are covered, and I have friends who make sure my home is safe.

[โ€“] Chozo@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Soooo... that's a "no", I take it?

[โ€“] frustbox@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We'll talk. Come to my office. Maybe we'll get it in writing first.

Make that 100 million. We'll find the poorest neighborhood with the poorest schools and fund them, hospitals, housing. A new cause of my choosing every week.

You however will get nothing in return.

The only favor you get, is me not blowing the whistle on you. Remember we have it in writing that you tried to bribe me. So long.

[โ€“] JakeHimself@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Wouldn't happen

[โ€“] AverageCakeSlice@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Butโ€ฆ you took the bribe.

[โ€“] frustbox@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

No. I never took any money. It's their money, they are giving it to charity.

I mean, technically you could call it blackmail. Either they do that or I call them out publicly. Shrug

[โ€“] Eggyhead@artemis.camp 1 points 1 year ago

Iโ€™d put it to a vote.

[โ€“] arin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Remember Trump shilling canned beans in the oval office? Doubt he got paid much

[โ€“] Muetzenman@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

He wasn't a typical prsident in anyway. He didn't want to be president, he wanted to win and people to fill his need for approval. He needs to get what he wants so he shills out for unbelivably cheep.

[โ€“] olorin99@artemis.camp 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah nah, the US president makes 400k USD a year + benefits. That should be more than enough for any person.

If not, how much would you counteroffer?

If someone attempted to bribe me I would automatically assume their proposal was a bad idea.

[โ€“] MrSlicer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

If the answer is no you probably won't make it in high level politics.

[โ€“] MrFunnyMoustache@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

If I'm the president of the United States, I won't have any need for bribes because former presidents can make a ton of money by selling books, giving lectures, and things like that. A million dollars is not that difficult for a former president to make completely legally, so it will not be life-changing at all. And any amount of money that is significantly larger won't matter anyway, because once you pass the 5-10 million dollars mark, your quality of life won't change much anyway. This is why I would easily turn down even a billion dollar bribe without hesitation.

Even if I were the type of person who doesn't care for ethics and morals, accepting a bribe would be unnecessary and risky.

And for the people saying that this money can do a lot of good, the president of the US has a lot more resources to manipulate to make this bribe a drop in the bucket.

President makes 400,000 a year for a min of 4 years (1,600,000) and a max of 8 years (3,200,000) so I'd probably ask for 5,000,000 a year for them to call the shots and an extra 1,000,000 for anything I don't think will get me reelected