Perfectly reasonable IMO. That said I’m still not going to use reddit again
this post was submitted on 18 Aug 2023
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Just sad that's what the Internet has come to, microtransactions for using an app for a website that just aggregates links. Not to mention reddit has already gimped your third party access with the NSFW stuff and I'm sure more is on its way. Fuuuuuck off reddit
if you are mod of an subreddit you still get access to nsfw. also you can continue to use thirdparty apps. i still use joey for Reddit as an example. reddit still allows you to use them in secret if you're a moderator.
Interesting side effect is Reddit is basically penalizing voting, since if you vote on most comments you end up doubling or tripling your API usage. The best way to pay less for this app is to stop voting altogether.
Reddit's advertising is based on user engagement, so they're shooting themselves in the foot for a few pennies in comparison.
Its just end-to-end-retardation. All the rage lately
This is the best summary I could come up with:
The costs of a subscription will go up based on a user’s daily average number of API calls, essentially meaning that the more things a person does in the app, the more they might have to pay.
Here is the full list, from developer DBrady’s post, which appears to include Google’s take of the subscription and Relay’s expected revenues:
In the newest release of Relay, DBrady says they also added the ability for users to see their average daily API calls.
The plan is for a subscription to roll out in two or three weeks from the time of their post and they expect to charge a monthly cost of $3 or $4.
“This won’t cover the cost of ‘super users’ who use the app all day, but, on average, it should allow me to pay the Reddit API bill,” the developer said.
Many subreddits and users protested against the switch to the paid API in-party because of its effect on the third-party app ecosystem.
I'm a bot and I'm open source!
Why is Infinity for Reddit still working fine? The Verge hasn't reported anything about it.
No one wants to jynx it.
In all seriousness though, I expect reddit just hasn't yet started invoicing for API calls. Meanwhile, they haven't actually cut off access, because they want something to be able to charge for. However they may struggle to argue that continued use of the existing API access constitutes an agreement to start paying for it.
if you are mod of an subreddit, reddit still lets you use thirdparty apps and nsfw. i still use joey for reddit as an example. they don't tell you about it though.
This is making my stomach sick. What about Apollo, did Christian totally disable the old unupdated version or does it function still for mods and certain people who didn't update?
most apps have auto update functions who require you to update. so normally they are all deactivated. but i have blocked the requests Joey does to it's server for checking the version check and use an older version of the app so i can still use a older version. newer versions don't let you do that anymore. so i guess Apollo is killed off completely.
I am not a mod there haha.
Reddits giving a grace period to Infinity since it's getting a subscription model developed, so they haven't even started charging Infinity yet
If this is better then the official app, it could be an option
If Reddit wants to charge for their API, they need to consider compensating these "superusers" who bring in upvotes/comments, encourage content creation etc like Twitter X is doing.
As it stands, Reddit seems to be saying "we don't want to be giving our content base for free to AI and scrapers etc" while ignoring the fact that as a platform, its not creating any of the content. They are hosting it and simultaneously saying everything is their intellectual peoperty that the recognize the value of without completing the analysis.
They want you to upload porn or whatever content and then turn around and charge you for the privelege, but also turn around and whine "only in our app" + you have to watch ads and commericials and there's no way around this unless you pay us more and you still can't use your preferred app and we own everything you submit.
Fuck that
Edit: Also, no anonymous posting (remember, they want YOUR billing details that they then can link to your real identity and use to further buikd and sell ad profiles to and track your ip etc). There's no way for the superuser/highly engaged who don't want Reddit knowing and selling knowledge of their interests even after they've been paid. Same problem with Youtube+. Pay so Google can learn far more deeply about you? Again, fuck that
Edit: Not even just superusers, every user. Set a price for posts, comments, upvotes, etc. That they got rid of awards points to the fact that they don't give a shit about revenue. Its about selling out and gaining even deeper insight into redditors for more of that sweet ad revenue and their IPO
Edit: If its the monetization aspect, let them try accepting Monero. If they care that much purely for money, let people pay anonymously. But they won't because they don't want to be a content source. They want to be an advertising unicorn like Facebook or Google.
Edit: Not to put too fine a point on it, but re: porn and sexual content, Reddit is now essentially demanding that if you want to view porn on their platform, they want to know who you are so, by extension, they will know your sexual interests/fetishes/kinks and be able to still sell that to the lowest bidder. Think about that for a minute. Doesn't that sound like what southern states in the US are trying to enact that even PORNHUB has come out against? Aren't porn apps not even allowed on the Apple AppStore? Isn't that why there's no 4Chan 3rd party (or hell, even 1st party) apps?
Edit: TIL: Reddit is an AppStore approved porn app. Pornhub should be suing to join them. I trust Pornhub way more than I trust Reddit at this point. And I don't trust Pornhub at all...
It shouldn't be an option. Why should users pay to provide content for reddit?
Who the fuck would still want to use Reddit, like wtf? Just leave that shitty site behind.
I really miss some of the small communities that just don't exist here.. But yes, fuck reddit, I'm not going back.
Reddit has royally pissed me off to the point where I never wanted to use them again.
But they have curated content which I just can't find anywhere else.
I have tried. Lemmy is a pale alternative, which has some stuff I like.
But the sheer amount of content I like on Reddit is unmatched anywhere else.
Twitter can be okay with some topics, but has so much spam is ridiculous.
Lemmy has content, but a small amount in comparison.
9gag is a racist shit hole with occasiona bit ofl funny content.
Tides seems empty.
I dunno maybe I can reconfigure lemmy connect. It's a pretty nifty app btw.
If you can recommend any other sites as good as Reddit be my guest.
Reddit it still better for more niche stuff and the feed in general has more content. But I've got the feeling that the amount of reposts and low effort stuff has been ramped up lately, I mean it was always there, but seems to have increased lately.
I still use it, although way less, and it's only bearable because there's still 3rd apps working and I have a shit ton of subs blocked
Which 3rd party apps are working?
I think all of them if you create a sub, so you get to be a mod. For now almost everything is working, but I've noticed lately that I can't download some videos some times.
I have to warn that is is going to be harsh. Relay was my favorite app and I used it everyday for years. DBrady has sold out here in my mind by sucking up to Reddit - The authors of the other apps deliberately chose not to charge users a subscription and it has put us on a better path long term by taking influence away from Reddit and centralized social media. If Relay won't flip to Lemmy or decentralized alternatives then I hope it fails.
Loved relay to death. Now it's dead too me :) not really a big deal though, it's only a passage to Reddit which I have no desire to browse.
I missed the interface for a month, but got used to Voyager here. Now I'm indifferent.
I have no here feelings for the Dev, it's his to do what he wants. I got my money's worth it off relay pro, we can part amicably. I'll not be paying a subscription to view Reddit.
Welp I was wondering why relay still worked. Fuck spez. Also quality has dropped drastically, but that's not news
Redreader still works for some reason.
If they charge more for access, they'll pay more for contributing, right..?