laughs in firefox + uBlock Origin
this post was submitted on 17 Aug 2023
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Except WEI is going to make it so the website can detect and block you if you don't allow the ads, regardless of your browser and extensions
At the moment WEI has been rejected by mozilla, so it wont be implemented into firefox. if google decides to add it into chrome and to their services, they will effectively lock out all firefox users. - A very anarchistic part of me actually would like to see how that would play out ... but at the moment i am unsure if google would actually dare doing this, but i guess, it will only be a matter of time and we'll find out.
Not sure if this move would actually damage the open web ... since basically google would single itself out as the enemy ... and i dont see many users appreciating such a move.
But if the worst happens and the whole web follows googles example, i guess we can just call this iteration of a "open web" a failure and start over with something much simpler ... maybe something like the gemini protocol as its base, which isnt polluted with clientside javascript garbage and bloated CSS/XHTML parsers and rendering engines .
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People who choose not to watch ads are far more likely to not spend money based on ads. I know that when I see the same crappy ads over and over, yeah, I remember the name of the product, and I remind myself every time never to buy it. I'm more likely to buy from that seller if I don't see their ads.
Everyone thinks ads only work on other people, that's why ads haven't been banned yet.
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Oh my, the creators get paid?!?
https://influencermarketinghub.com/youtube-money-calculator/
Oh... So no, not really...
Sounds like they're lying to me!
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I don't think I've ever seen the word "allowlisted". Did someone forget "whitelisted" is a thing, or is that term finally cancelled?
Whitelist and blacklist were indeed cancelled despite having no racial origin.
It doesn't have racial origin, but it has pretty strong racial connotations.
And it's not exactly hard to stop using them.
It doesn’t have racial origin, but it has pretty strong racial connotations.
What isn't racist if even basic colors are racist?
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It's common since quite a few years. And blocklist as counterpart
Blocklist and allowlist are much more intuitive, so if we ignore all the cultural baggage, these changes are rather sensical.
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Desktop replacements: FreeTube and Piped. I personally prefer FreeTube; the UI is way better than Piped.
Android: LibreTube (it also works with Piped but I just imported my youtube subscription list instead). There is also NewPipe too!
If you'd rather dump YouTube entirely, there is Odysee and PeerTube. Though for most people they're just not viable, total replacements. Only you can decide for yourself on that matter.
Enjoy!
Edit: If you want to export your YouTube subs and playlists you'll have to do Google Takeout; but after that it's super easy to import/export them from Freetube and Piped whenever ya want.
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Remember when YouTube was just a video of a guy at the zoo? Pepperidge farm remembers...
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Fuck this shit with the force of a billion adblockers.
That's did news. Perhaps after mastodon grow massive thanks to Elon, and Lemmy grow thanks to reddit, we see peertube get his time to shine thanks to Google... #fuckupyourcompanyFAST
I'd love to see PeerTube grow just like these platforms, but I think it's a lot more complicated to get people to use it than mastodon/lemmy.
Twitter/Reddit weren't used as a major income source like YouTube and Instagram (I am saying this based on famous people in my country, I don't know how it goes on other places), and so are easier to replace. The people posting and discussing topics don't do that for the money, they do because they like it.
YT and its monetization system made possible for people to make a living from the content they produce, and many wouldn't like or simply couldn't sacrifice this income source just to go to a more ethical and private platform like PeerTube.
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Text is fine but you can't really expect the Fediverse to serve heavy media at a large scale
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The streaming crash has only just begun.
If they really force me to subscribe, I will... to Nebula.
You should do this anyway - it funds great original educational content, and is quite good value.
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The ads are not the true problem. The tracking and profiling is. They keep the rhetoric about the ads while forcing both. I'd be kinda okay with just untargeted ads. Maybe not fully okay but I'd be far more willing to tolerate them. This privacy violating thing the modern Internet made a norm? Hell no!
It's weird because there's lots of studies showing that tracking users' interests isn't even that much more effective than targeting based on the page content.
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Unlock users: purge cache and update. A fix has been deployed.
purge cache and update
Music to my ears.
I have yet to see this running ublock origin on firefox
Can't wait, i should quit YouTube anyways
YouTube can, in the strongest possible terms, absolutely go fuck itself lol
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Maybe one day all of the mega corporations on the internet will finally drive me from the internet itself and I'll finally do something useful with my time.
Until that day...
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I like New pipe. Hopefully doesn't affect it.
(Creators should start backing up their content and get ready to shift to new platforms)
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We need an AdBlock for adblockers now. Hopefully this will get bypassed.
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Haha! Forced ads = no watchie-watchie. I have played this game with YouTube before, and the adblockers always win.
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YouTube is so horrible now I hope it’s reaching the tipping point where even non tech people may get sick of it and look elsewhere. There is no reason to have ONE giant main fucking video site and that’s it for most of the English speaking world. I need to look up how to do grout…or open this smoke detector…or beat this video game…no reason that all these videos cannot be hosted via other websites or just self hosted with the affordability of bandwidth. I’ve loved most of what google has done for a long time and they won the browser wars, crushed Mapquest, destroyed hotmail and yahoo mail…now everything is turning to shit. Google search all but refuses to find what you’re searching for. 15 second video…30 second ad. No.
I don’t know if federation is the answer but YouTube being ubiquitous for internet video has got to go.
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I remember when there were no ads. Ugh.
Not just that. I have always turned of history and analytics since 2020. I use you tube to check news about happening events in my region(politics and stuff), so I can open the video on invidious or newpipe. But yesterday, as I opened you tube, it threw me this message... So, now I feel better, but seems, they have never stopped tracking what I search and watch, even when I opted to keep it off. Also maybe it is due to new feature where we can see the full video in hover mode, without clicking it to watch. But whatever, I wanted to let lemmy people to know that something like this happened yesterday to me.
Watch history is an absolutely essential metric for Youtube - I can understand how you've been led to believe that turning this option off is opting out from that data collection, but no. What this setting is asking is if you want the data collected to be represented to you as recommendations for other videos to watch. It absolutely doesn't change what data is collected, just whether the videos you've watched should be accounted for when the algorithm is finding new videos to recommend.
Just yesterday they stopped allowing me to see home page and recommendations unless I turn on watch history, which I am not doing ever. So they can keep forcing my hand and see how far it goes. If anything am stubborn enough to enjoy this kind of petty behavior from major players. They keep thinking "oh they will just do what we ask them to", but I'll do the opposite out of spite. I'll just use !videos or similar communities to find my recommendations until the day comes where I stop using it completely. I quit Facebook this way, quit Reddit and Twitter, quit WhatsApp. Keep at it guys, let's see who's more stubborn.
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