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[–] flossdaily@lemmy.world 56 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They guy attempted a coup. He should be on trial for his life right now... and still 30+% of Americans might support him.

[–] somas@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@flossdaily

@btaf45

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/it-took-a-long-time-for-republicans-to-abandon-nixon/

When the House of Representatives voted in February 1974 to give the House Judiciary Committee subpoena power to investigate Nixon, it did not have the weight of public opinion behind it. According to a poll conducted by Gallup just days before the vote, only 38 percent of Americans were in favor of impeachment. And although a solid majority of Americans did eventually come to support impeachment, that moment didn’t arrive until quite late in the game.

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He's a real estate developer rebel for the workin' man

[–] LastYearsPumpkin@feddit.ch 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I guess that's a good thing, but that % should be way higher for someone that committed treason, among numerous other crimes (as well as being just a terrible person in general.)

[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Something like 1/3 of the country are so deeply republican as to be a total loss. This % is pretty fucking solid.

[–] Doug@midwest.social 3 points 1 year ago

There's a Mitt Romney 37% joke in there somewhere

But yeah. It's a terrible truth

[–] RichardBonham@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

But he's hurting the right people!

[–] Bdtrngl@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So 36% of Americans are fucking dumb. Which is lower than I would've guessed.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Been the same for 6 years. Even damn poll - he’s always hovering around that number no matter how hard he’s fucking up.

A lot of people really believe that Trump, the man who puts his name on everything, is a selfless martyr. Not a wealthy grifter looking for new suckers willing to line his pockets with cash.

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[–] athos77@kbin.social 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah, screw that. Don't trust polls, vote like your democracy and your life depend on it.

[–] Ubermeisters@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 year ago

....becuase they very much may

[–] Zana@startrek.website 7 points 1 year ago

It literally does at this point.

[–] Sonicdemon86@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is why we need ranked choice voting. The extremists would never win if we did.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 7 points 1 year ago

We also wouldn’t be limited to choosing from exactly two choices if we want our vote to impact the election.

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[–] RoccosBasilisk@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

At this point I think 36% of Americans are just trolling

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

no worries mate, luckily the US election system does not have a flaw in it that technically allows 23% of voters to decide the presidency

https://www.npr.org/2016/11/02/500112248/how-to-win-the-presidency-with-27-percent-of-the-popular-vote

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[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was curious about who the 64% of Americans are, because I've never done a poll in my life. This is what I found:

NORC gathers data for the polls through its probability-based AmeriSpeak® Panel, a breakthrough survey approach that achieves an industry-leading response rate and includes difficult-to-reach demographic groups, such as rural and low-income households.

For AmeriSpeak's Omnibus survey, 1,000 nationally representative adults age 18 and older are drawn from the AmeriSpeak Panel and are interviewed online and by phone.

The people that are drawn from the panel are all preregistered. So these people sign up, and are asked questions every month. The same people. Every month. Then they do some sort of probability math on those numbers and run it as a news story.

[–] breadcodes@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's how polls work. I'm not sure if you genuinely don't know, but that's just how they are done.

You can very accurately extrapolate data on the entire population with just 1000 participants. The flaw is in geography distribution, population distribution, willingness to poll, and other types of sample bias, but if they account for those then that's perfectly valid.

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I did not know. That's why I said I didn't know and looked it up, and then shared the info i found :)

[–] CoderKat@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Good on you for looking it up. I've seen so many comments from people who don't look it up and just go "they only asked 2000 people so this is bullshit". I initially had thought your original comment would be just another one of those till I read it all.

[–] jenniebuckley@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

the fact that there are about 100 million Americans who didn't say they wouldn't support Trump says a lot about the state of America

[–] albertsy2@lemm.ee 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Now if only someone would do something about the gerrymandering

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[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

Just a reminder that Republicans have won the popular vote once in the last 30 years, despite holding office for 12 of them.

What a majority of people want doesn't really matter in our system.

As dismayingly low as that appears, I think more or less as good as it’s gonna get for a while. Between Fox, Trump’s enablers/sycophants, and the man himself, they’ve been able to pretty much enrapture the lowest third of the bell curve, and it’s gonna take a while for that to pass - if it ever does.

[–] just_change_it@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'd never vote for Trump, but i'm not really thrilled to vote for Biden either. I think both options suck.

Since there is no other option we'll end up with Biden again probably, just depends how much power hate and fear has nowadays.

I'm in Massachusetts so voting blue doesn't mean anything in the presidential race. With the divide between conservative and liberal getting worse and worse I wonder how the battleground states will swing this time around.

[–] HerrLewakaas@feddit.de 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Please tell me you're gonna vote anyways

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[–] downpunxx@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Vote Democrat straight ticket, voting blue means everything, every where, every single fucking time. It's incredible people still don't appreciate this after points to literally everything

[–] Okkai@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've voted straight Democrat for 10 years and I hate it. I don't believe the US is as polarized as its portrayed. But our options are either "Fascist" or "At least we're not those guys". I HOPE ranked choice voting becomes a thing in our lifetime.

[–] downpunxx@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

I appreciate that you hate it, as much as I appreciate the fact you keep doing it, for all of us. Truly. Here's to a better tomorrow.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I assume the guy was referring to the electoral college. Massachusetts votes overwhelmingly blue, so after we collect all the electoral votes, the rest of us are just icing on that cake

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[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This 3 foot pile of dog shit in my living room is really disgusting and I don't like it one bit. On the other hand it was kinda disorganized in here before the dog shit and that was kinda sucky too.

[–] Veraxus@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"36% of Americans think a violent, criminal, rapist dictator is acceptable."

[–] Elderos@lemmings.world 1 points 1 year ago

They think it is the best thing to ever have happened

[–] halfempty@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

If only we had actual "one person, one vote" elections in the U.S. Instead we have a skewed system where rural and southern areas have more weight than coastal urban areas due to how the electoral college is distributed. It has been common for the popular vote to be opposite to the determined vote for president.

[–] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Does not matter. Those remaining 36% are located in strategic places to make up for majority of the land mass - aka electoral college - to bring back Cheeto

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Which still implies there are 36% of the American voters with a room temperature IQ - if measured in °C.

[–] Niggling__Niggard@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

How many of them actually vote?

[–] Compactor9679@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How are the numbers for Biden?

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

60% of Americans admit to planning to grudgingly vote for the "Not outright planning to install a dictatorship" guy.

(I actually like what he's done so far, insomuch as I can like any President who doesn't immediately seize the means)

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[–] TigrisMorte@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

National polls have little value since that isn't how President is Voted for. You need by State weighted by Electoral Votes.

[–] xc2215x@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

That is a good number to see.

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