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[–] Waldhuette@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Holy shit. LTT is really not doing themselves any favors by starting this.

The faulty stuff they put out without even feeling bad about it is insane.

[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.one 5 points 1 year ago

Once again, problems from the top down. Fish rots at the head and all that. Now they have leadership with significant conflicts of interest on top of prioritizing quantity of content over accuracy and with no sense of responsibility to the industry or the audience.

Makes me ill to see how they doubled down on their bullshit error with callous disregard for the startup they're screwing, then basically stealing the company's prototype.

If it were one or two errors maybe not the biggest deal. But the problems seem to be quite common (well they are putting out a shit ton of videos) and aren't properly corrected. The problems are clearly deeply systemic.

[–] thesprongler@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I used to enjoy LTT as an entertainment channel but I never watched it to gain any insight on the parts they covered. This is a great breakdown of why they cannot be trusted, and it's really sad to see Linus continue to die on the hill.

[–] briongloid@aussie.zone 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It seems like Linus is slowly having bigger and bigger community reactions like this and this one is significantly bigger than the backpack.

[–] mihnt@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

OOTL, what happened with the backpack?

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Warranty disputes between Linus opinion why it does not require a warranty and the actions of support speak for themselve (which I can partly vouch for.)
Context: Ordered a mousepad, a hoddie and a shirt.
Received a mousepad, deskpad and a shirt.
Contacted support. They send the missimg hoodie for free. It arrived but with a hole in the sleeve. I asked if they want it sent back. They refused and imstead send me a second hoodie (each hoodie is worth about 60€ + shipping + import tax to europe.

Anyway: Community basically demanded a written warranty and Linus caved with the TrustMeBro warranty which is kindly named after his earlier claim of "Trust me, community. If I bleep and backstab you up the outcry would be louder than I can protect against. Literally trust me". (not a literal quote but the gist of it).

Also he released a tongue in cheek joke shirt with a printed "Trust Me bro" and all following expensive items have this warranty name written.

Take from that what you want. His intentions are good, the actions are even for a tone-deaf like me poorly executed.

[–] briongloid@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

When he complained about the backpack there was a point where he was complaining about being liable for it, while arguing that he would do the right thing, he just didn't want to be legally required to do the right thing.

In practice, they've been good so far, handling what looks like frequent and inconvenient mistakes, but he explicitly wanted the right to not be good and folded when it justifiably angered/upset his trusting fans.

It was like a veil was lifted for a second.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't quite get what you ment with your last sentence. Could you elaborate further?

[–] GyozaPower@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Not OP, but basically:

He wanted to not be held accountable by a written warranty. It's all nice and cool when he acts nice and cool and gives you the replacements, but ultimately, what he wants is to sell you stuff that lacks an actual warranty, which can only have one reason: you want to be able to say "fuck you" to the customer when the time arrives.

If you trust the product so much and you want the community (and your customers) to trust you and pay you like 300€ or whatever the cost of that bag is (which is very expensive for a lot of people), you do the right thing, which is writing down a warranty and honoring it. If your intentions are good, there is no reason to not do so.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

Understandble and agree with every point.

It's been a long time since I've watched LTT and even back then I found their reviews often suspect even back then especially with their TV reviews. It's really sad to see how badly they're doing now with them trying to become tech reviewers.

[–] lapommedeterre@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

The new CEO should try to help with remediating things with Billet Labs. It's one of the worst things, I feel. Auctioning off one of their only prototype water blocks instead of returning it when asked? Yikes.

I guess anything sent out for review should be sent with some kind of contract and terms.