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I beg you, if you are a developer of an open source app or program - add screenshots of your app to the README file. When looking for the perfect app, I had to install dozens of them just to see what the user interface looked like and whether it suits me. This will allow users to decide if the app they choose will suit them... Please, don't think about it, just do it....

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[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 93 points 1 year ago (4 children)

While we're at it, I love that you let me customize the settings via a config, but for the love of god make the default config the best it can possibly be

[–] TheHobbyist@lemmy.zip 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This. It should be the most sane configuration and fit most use cases and lead to an experience working out of the box.

[–] charliespider@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I contribute to OS projects and work on one full time. EVERYBODY thinks that their obscure use case is the most common (not saying this is what you are doing).

We get users that are completely flabbergasted that our software doesn't offer some feature that is totally specific to their industry and has never been requested even once by anyone else previously. We'll show them our feature request form on our site where you can also view and upvote other requests, and point out that the feature they want has never been requested. They will literally come up with some bs excuse why that is and then insist that we get on it and build out this custom functionality that they need or else they're going to slander us on social media.

Your app doesn't integrate with "didLr"? OMG any decent app integrates with "didLr"!

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[–] GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's a real problem here with backwards compatibility. If you add an option for something, it makes sense to make the default match the functionality of old versions, even if it's not the best for general use cases. That way any tools built on top of it can safely update.

[–] charliespider@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 year ago

Ding ding ding!

That said, the solution is to set new defaults for new installations only and not change existing configs. Users lose their minds (rightfully so) if you modify their existing configs.

[–] RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I prefer the simple, sane defaults that work for everyone with a heavily commented config file giving detailed information on what each value for each option does, personally. Like MPV's config file.

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[–] noodle@feddit.uk 71 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Sometimes I'd settled for a simple description of what the tool even is. Sometimes the readme is just straight into compilation steps and I feel like we're rushing into something.

[–] Shadow@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] QuazarOmega@lemy.lol 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

🛠️ Building

To build the app install the gamete dependencies and run the following

make child
[–] Nioxic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago

A lot of documentation is like that.

Its terrible when the software is called some random word that has nothing to do with the programs functionality

[–] CombatWombatEsq@lemmy.world 66 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Me, developing a headless component library:

[–] corytheboyd@kbin.social 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

To be that dick, a headless component library is still meant to do something, show an example of it being used!

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[–] CoderKat@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Even for a CLI tool, there should be a real world example showing how it works and what the output looks like. Eg, for jq:

$ cat file.json
{"field: "value"}
$ jq '.field' file.json
"value"

And a few other examples.

[–] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 54 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also please begin the Github page or whatever with a description of what the app is actually for or what it does. I know that sounds super obvious, but the number of times I've seen links that are like "I made this app from scratch for fun, let me know what you think!" and then you click through and the app is called Scrooblarr or something and it has no indication of what it actually does is... more than it should be.

[–] charliespider@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] xT1TANx@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Wait what? I thought the read me file was to put as little info as possible to prove how awesome anyone was who can use the program.

[–] skankhunt42@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 year ago
[–] shalva97@lemmy.sdfeu.org 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Including the documentation link, which only has incomplete getting started section

[–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Getting Started

  1. Clone the repo
  2. Install dependencies
  3. Compile the project: TODO
  4. Copy the executable to /bin
  5. Add your app.json config to ~/.config/app*

* IMPORTANT. APP WILL NOT RUN WITHOUT THIS

[–] gabe@literature.cafe 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Or at least a demo site if it's a web site or self hosted web based app 🥲

[–] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I wish there was a way to give more props to open-source repos that do this.

I already star the project. But I'd love to say "Thanks for making a demo page it really helped!"

[–] FrostySpectacles@lemmy.ml 31 points 1 year ago (3 children)

As a user, I completely agree. People often make decisions in a few seconds, and you've done all this work developing an app. That little extra step will allow you to make a difference to more people!

As a developer of a Lemmy web UI, I've been thinking about adding screenshots to my README for weeks but still haven't done so 🙈

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[–] 1984@lemmy.today 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Agree, I don't know what's so hard about a screenshot.

[–] StudioLE@programming.dev 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I imagine most single developer projects lack any design or UX so the screenshot would do little to encourage users to download.

[–] RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 year ago

I can only speak for myself and a handful of other people I know who are into FOSS, but for us we care more about it being functional than looking pretty. I just want to see what I'm getting into, a reference for what a successful install looks like, or just check to see if it's got the buttons I want on it.

[–] horrorslice@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Is it better for someone to download it, see it, and uninstall it immediately? I'm not sure how they are tracking metrics or if they are at all.

[–] leraje@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

Also, installation instructions that don't assume you're already an expert.

[–] randint@lemm.ee 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

100% agree! I always get so frustrated when there are no screenshots in the README.md or on the site.

[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 10 points 1 year ago

On github you can even paste your screenshot right from the clipboard. Zero excuses for not having a screenshot.

[–] mojo@lemm.ee 22 points 1 year ago

Yup, if I don't see screenshots for a desktop applications, I don't bother since the developer clearly doesn't understand what they're doing. It's especially baffling when it's a WM/DE. It's really trivial effort too. If the devs don't get this basic point, it's going to reflect in their poorly designed UX/UI as well.

[–] gianni@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 year ago

I think this ties in to the grander idea of: please provide information that is helpful on a nontechnical plane of thinking. It goes a very long way

[–] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

README is usually a text file. While some platforms can now use markdown, that is nowhere near universal. So it might be better to ask for screenshots to be put on the website / wiki.

[–] FrostySpectacles@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

GitHub and GitLab both support inserting images into your README.md. Here's the syntax:

![Description of the image](https://path/to/image)
[–] Nioxic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Anafabula@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 year ago

And anything that supports CommonMark. It's even in the original Markdown

[–] GlenTheFrog@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago

Not just a text file, a markdown file. And markdown has supported images since forever

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[–] crate_of_mice@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

There's an awful lot of comments in this post from people complaining that developers aren't making their projects attractive and user friendly enough, or the READMEs descriptive enough.

Can I just say, as a developer with some open source projects on github, I don't care; you're not my intended audience.

[–] mbw@feddit.de 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I find this unnecessarily derisive. There are good reasons for a UI or README not being user-friendly, the top-most one being (imo) that it is really, really hard to get right, takes a lot of time and doesn't primarily solve the problem the project was started for.

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[–] Winn_Addison@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

TURE...👍

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