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[–] yukichigai@kbin.social 79 points 1 year ago

Chrome: We're going to make adblocking on mobile even harder.

Firefox: We're gonna make adblocking on mobile as easy as its ever been.

Gee, wonder which one I'm gonna be using after this.

[–] Quintus@lemmy.ml 59 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Alright so what's the biggest threat that the Open Web is facing right now? Web Enviroment Integrity.

What's the biggest browser engine that's not Chromium? Gecko. (Firefox)

Which group of people use Chrome most? Average Joes.

What attracts Average Joes? Shiny new features.

What is this post about? Shiny new features.

I think this is a perfect opportunity to make people switch to Firefox.

Though an antitrust lawsuit would probably be quicker.

[–] gridleaf@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Average Joe doesn't use extensions.

[–] maxprime@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

So many average Joes use ABP. They should use ublock origin, but they’re average Joes.

[–] Quintus@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago
[–] totallynotarobot@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

They use the crypto and shopping shit that Joe rogan or amazon.com recommend..

Antitrust lawsuits are a lot of things, but quick isn't one of them.

[–] BitSound@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

They already were the first? I still remember when I upgraded Firefox on my phone and all of the extensions were gone. It's nice that they're finally bringing them back after all these years, but it's just a return to the way things used to be.

EDIT: Headline here was changed from the original article, which doesn't claim "first", just "only".

They rewrote the Firefox core, which was definitely good for performance and stability. The change also coincided with the deprecation of XUL addons, which removed a lot of desktop addons as well.

Ever since the rewrite, they've kept a small whitelist of addons that usually mostly work. You can make your own list of addons in the settings if you run the beta/nightly version. A lot of addons don't work, though, because the UI elements that they interact with aren't available (yet) on mobile.

[–] vlad76@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago

I was also confused about it

[–] CosmicApe@kbin.social 28 points 1 year ago

Friendship with Brave has ended. Firefox is my new best friend

[–] darn@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

not sure what's new here, I've been using firefox with ublock origin on my phone for years. glad that it's getting more attention though

[–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

only a small list of extensions is available today

[–] exu@feditown.com 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ublock Origin and some other extensions were whitelisted. With this change, any extension can (theoretically) be used on mobile.

[–] darn@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

oh that's sick, awesome

[–] smeeps@feddit.uk 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Kiwi Browser on Android already supports chrome extensions...

[–] doona@aussie.zone 9 points 1 year ago

Even Orion Browser on iOS supports extensions. Bit perplexed by this headline.

[–] jayandp@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

And Developer Tools! :D

[–] compmix@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Please bring this to iOS! Or at least just ublock origin.

[–] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 year ago

Unless things have changed, Apple's policy of not allowing generally not allowing programs to download executable code would block this. Browsers are locked into using Apple's allowed web engines because of this, so basically every browser on iOS is safari or re-themed safari

[–] ege@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

Orion Browser should do fine with WebExtension support (from both Chrome and Firefox add-on stores) until Mozilla steps ahead.

[–] miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] pjhenry1216@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

It looks like support is either up to the developer or simply optimization is up to the developer. They mention that extension devs should start optimizing their desktop extensions for mobile but doesn't say whether that's required or simply suggested as a non-optimized extension may not work properly.

But theoretically, any extension at the very least could be made to work on mobile. It appears to be an open system as opposed to now where it's only approved ones.

[–] Jmr@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Kiwi browser...

[–] ahzidaljun@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Doesn't ir already do this on nightly??

[–] spiritusmaximus@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

And Beta too :)

[–] ch1cken@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 10 months ago)
[–] s_s@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'll be nice to have containers back.

[–] dan1101@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

I keep forgetting it's not a normal thing. I've been on Firefox Nightly plus uBlock for a long time and it works great.

[–] _thisdot@infosec.pub 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Safari supports extensions. What makes Firefox the first?

[–] sina@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Safari mobile is a great browser, but it does not support desktop! extensions, just mobile ones from Apple's store.

[–] bauhaus@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

yes it does. safari extensions are universal

[–] Zuberi@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago
[–] eochaid@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Also Firefox mobile already supports (a tiny limited subset of) extensions. And the version before their big UI overhaul supported extensions from the add-on store - although it would be unusable if you loaded up too many.

The big change is that the new shinier faster version of Firefox will now support their new desktop extension platform - and probably run them much more efficiently.

Pretty sure the person who wrote this headline only ever used Chrome mobile.

[–] univers3man@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Now if only Firefox didn't constantly crash on foldable phones. Or at Least on mine.

[–] Player2@sopuli.xyz -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thankfully those are only getting more popular unlike things like Windows phone back in the day. Hopefully it will continue improving over time

[–] univers3man@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Fingers crossed. Especially since Google now makes a foldable. They have a vested interest to make the experience better.