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[–] 4am@lemm.ee 88 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Yes, Ron, everyone knows Clean Coal™️ is the one true source of non-pollution.

Is anyone stupid enough to believe this?

[–] Baketime@kbin.social 74 points 1 year ago

Republicans

[–] Hizeh@hizeh.com 43 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] poprocks@beehaw.org 46 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I used to ride the bus with a lady who grew up in a coal town. We once debated over coal. She said it was so green because there were so many regulations and that wind and solar were horrible for the environment because they were killing birds. So yeah, people are stupid.

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[–] 0x815@feddit.de 19 points 1 year ago

No, they aren't. In 15 or 20 years, however, when people have left their indoctrination camps disguised as schools ...

[–] Steeve@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] such_lettuce7970@kbin.social 81 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Damn, America's really fucking dumb.

[–] JDubbleu@programming.dev 41 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Florida* I'm from California and I'll be damned if I'm lumped in with most of the rest of the US (Oregon and Washington are great though).

[–] CeleryFC@beehaw.org 30 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Eh, the populated areas of Oregon and Washington are chill. The rural areas are scary.

[–] Gormadt@beehaw.org 24 points 1 year ago

As someone who grew up in rural Washington on the threshold of populated Washington, yeah shit gets pretty fucked really quick in those rural areas.

It was a really religious area as well so that really didn't help. The local religious people have a strong belief in having as many children as possible as soon as possible. The running non-joke (because it's common) about it is the first kid to turn 16 drives the 3rd van.

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[–] Banzai51@midwest.social 68 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Remember this when Florida is flooding.

[–] Hazzia@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 1 year ago

Or on fire! Don't forget about the fires!

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[–] prole@beehaw.org 59 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

But I thought it was the left that's indoctrinating children?

That's what they need to convince their base in order to get them to support their indoctrination schemes. They've convinced so many people that simply teaching science and history is leftist indoctrination, and they need to combat it with their own propaganda.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.one 58 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"attacking solar and wind because “their batteries break down and become hazardous waste”"

My solar array has no batteries, it powers the house during the day and generates 2x to 3x the power which is fed back to the grid which gives me credits that pays for the energy we use after the sun goes down

My "electric bill" went from over $100 a month to $13, which is really just the associated taxes and fees.

I guess nobody explained that setup to him.

[–] marv99@feddit.de 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

They (Mr. Oil, Mr. Coil and Mrs. Nuke) explained to him that they are loosing $87 from your electric bill what will effect their profits and donations to him.

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[–] storksforlegs@beehaw.org 49 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Reminds me of how Trump has been going after wind farms for a long time. He claims they're noisy and they're killing all the birds. (He began saying this when Scotland wanted to place Wind farms near his Scottish golf resort)

[–] Onihikage@beehaw.org 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's almost silly to look into bird deaths and realize just how low wind power is on the list, even with its rapid growth in recent years. It was recently estimated that with the expected growth of wind power, it will be killing about 2.2 million birds a year in the US... in 2050. Meanwhile, power lines kill anywhere from 12 to 48 million a year right now, fossil-fueled power plants kill as many as 14 million a year right now, communication towers kill over 5 million, cars 60-80 million, pesticides as much as 90 million, and cats well over a billion. Every year. The numbers aren't that hard to find. Replacing all fossil-fueled power plants with wind turbines would be a net positive for bird populations, and the facts make that very clear.

https://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/data-mine/2014/08/22/pecking-order-energys-toll-on-birds
https://www.energymonitor.ai/tech/renewables/weekly-data-how-many-birds-are-really-killed-by-wind-turbines/

[–] perdido@lemmy.eco.br 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If they actually cared about birds they'd shut up about wind power and try to get rid of cats instead

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[–] Rozauhtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What an idiot, birds aren't even real.

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[–] r3xus@lemmy.sdf.org 48 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The thing is Mother Nature does not care about the American political and social divide. I just wonder how future generations are going to view us, how our prevalent negligence for the planet is going to be portrayed?

[–] RichardAPI@feddit.nl 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Luckily the world is bigger than the US/Florida

[–] nxdefiant@startrek.website 29 points 1 year ago

But is it big enough to survive US/Florida

[–] Maestro@kbin.social 29 points 1 year ago

Unfortunately the US has a tendency to export their particular brand of crazy to the rest of the world

[–] r3xus@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 1 year ago

I hope you are right, but I have my doubts, people in Eastern Europe, for example, share the scepticism and outright denial presented in the article above without having Ron DeSantis.

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[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 44 points 1 year ago (2 children)

PragerU has produced anti-climate policy videos since shortly after it began in 2009. The Prager foundation has received millions of dollars from the billionaire brothers, Farris and Dan Wilks of Texas, who made their fortune in fracking.

PragerU has received additional funding from foundations that oppose climate regulations such as the Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation.

PragerU CEO Streit said her group has tapped into angry parents who want their politics reflected more in classrooms.

Yup.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I see conservatives have already shifted from "take politics out of the classroom" to "put our politics into the classroom".

[–] Umbrias@beehaw.org 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's what it always was. Many people view. "Politics" as simply being anything they don't like or disagree with.

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[–] mobyduck648@beehaw.org 22 points 1 year ago

If someone is lobbying for climate change denial then they’re guilty of something morally akin to treason, but it’s not treason itself because instead of just betraying just their country they’re betraying their entire species.

[–] circularfish@beehaw.org 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I somehow feel this will backfire spectacularly. Younger kids can be dumb like the rest of us, but there is one thing they are exceptionally smart about: spotting and mocking lame-ass adults.

There is already little tolerance among (a lot of) younger folk for climate denialism and general right wing jackassery. Adding a cut-rate Donald Duck screeching about The Protocols of the Elders of Zion or how windmills are dangerous is just gonna’ cement the lameness for them. Now, if we could just do something about the grown-up idiots on Facebook, we’d be cooking.

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[–] StringTheory@beehaw.org 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Florida students who want to go to college in other states will need months of remedial education to catch up.

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[–] joneskind@beehaw.org 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is the SOB trying to burn the planet down or what? That's criminal. I wish those POS could be held accountable for the dangerous ideas they push.

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[–] worfamerryman@beehaw.org 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Florida kids are going to grow up and leave Florida and be like “What the fuck?” Why is the rest of the world different from what o was taught.

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[–] aeternum@kbin.social 28 points 1 year ago (25 children)

reminder: the greatest things you can do to help the environment: Go Vegan; Don't have kids; if you can, walk/catch public transport/cycle.

[–] sanzky@beehaw.org 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would say that stop voting a**holes is even better (and the best thing is, you can do both!)

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[–] saba@lemmy.sdf.org 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

what if all the current vegans started eating CEO's and politicians instead? Would that not help more?

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[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 year ago

Veganism is a moral philosophy regarding the treatment of animals. I feel it is disingenuous to present veganism as a solution to climate change. What if we discover a way of torturing animals that tends to restore the environment? Then you're fucked. Call it a plant-based diet, not veganism.

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[–] mojo@lemm.ee 22 points 1 year ago

This dude isn't just grifting, he's actually just straight up evil.

[–] shiveyarbles@beehaw.org 21 points 1 year ago

I'm a parent and I sure af would not tolerate this fucking corporate propaganda being forced on my son.

[–] Fhek@lemm.ee 20 points 1 year ago

1940s Germany wants their leader back.

[–] darmabum@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It always amuses me how politicians and community “faith based” leaders can blithely condemn what scientists have been warning about for decades, as if they know better (with no training or experience). Anti-intellectualism is the Dunning-Kruger effect applied to politics, known as Populism, aka the idiots revenge.

[–] IWantToFuckSpez@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

These politicians don’t give a fuck about being right. They probably know they are wrong. Being a climate change denier just lines their pockets better.

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[–] Mereo@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Has The Onion crossed over into real life?

[–] gapbetweenus@feddit.de 15 points 1 year ago

Mask of apocalyptic cult arrives.

[–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 year ago

He sure likes wearing his sponsors on his sleeve.

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