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The committee, led by Chairman James Comer, said in the report that it plans to continue to investigate Biden to find evidence of corruption, even as it acknowledged that it had no evidence that he financially benefited from the myriad foreign business dealings of his son Hunter.

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[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 83 points 1 year ago (3 children)

These people never grew out of high school.

[–] DarkGamer@kbin.social 63 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's a show for low-information voters to establish false equivalency in their minds, fuel for whataboutism. Sadly, it will probably work on the intended audience.

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Conservatives always assume there is a democrat counter part for every evil thing that emerges from their party. Alt-right, what about the alt-left?? Ignoring the fact they adopted the moniker the alt-right and all the scumbags they pandered to joined up. If there was some counter group on the left why the fuck would they adopt the name the alt-left like its some celestial inevitability and if they don't call themselves that the universe will become unbalanced.

Fucking stupid.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's because it's where they peaked and it's all been downhill since.

[–] nocturne213@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They have real Al Bundy energy.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Al Bundy if Al was the school bully and never gave up on that dream.

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[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 64 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Every word uttered by a conservative is deception or manipulation. Every word.

Never trust a conservative.

[–] sndmn@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 year ago

Every accusation is a confession...

[–] genoxidedev1@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Deception and manipulation would require some base intelligence. Instead, conservatives procure sounds that sometimes resemble human sentences.

Think infinite monkey theorem.

[–] GrammatonCleric@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're thinking of conservative voters.

Conservative politicians know exactly what they're doing.

[–] orclev@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Well, most of them. There was a certain cheeto colored one recently that I'm pretty sure didn't know what he was doing... also I'm not sure Mitch McConnell even knows where he is half the time these days.

[–] TigrisMorte@kbin.social 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The GQP held many, many hearings on Hillary Clinton's supposed crimes, released multiple reports with no evidence, and you'll notice Hillary Clinton isn't President. Why would they change when it worked?

[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This ignores the fact that Hillary is deeply unlikeable and thus unelectable. imho you’re giving repug disinformation too much credit here.

[–] etlaser@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hillary Clinton won the popular vote by 3 million votes.

[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah well considering her opponent…

[–] Aesthesiaphilia@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Rofl

Why exactly do so many people find her unlikeable?

I'll give you a hint, it rhymes with "Depublucan propaganda"

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Exactly. I remember in the 2008 primaries I was talking to someone about how Obama was a better pick than Clinton because she just felt unlikeable. I did some self reflection at the time and realized that's because Republicans had been running a constant smear campaign against her since the early 90s. It's crazy how effective that long term propaganda is. It leaves people with a generally bad feeling about someone, even if they can't quite articulate why.

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[–] ScrollinMyDayAway@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unaffiliated Voter here that leans left and used to sometimes vote Republican until Trump. I'll never even consider doing so again until the R Platform clearly acknowledges the J6 Coup Attempt and holds it's own members that were complicit accountable.

Having said that, to hell with Hillary. Wasn't one of her slogans 'It's Her Turn!' or something? Sorry, no. I am against any political dynasties, be they Clinton, Bush, Kennedy, or any of the others. She is the epitome of a cringe politician.

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[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Something, something, vast right-wing conspiracy.

Turns out she wasn't wrong.

[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

I disagree, she just doesn’t have good charisma or stage presence. Remember the balloon drop? I mean come on bro, she was passing for reptilian in that moment.

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[–] socsa@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lmao if USA today is calling them out you know it's a cringe report.

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[–] HellAwaits@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago

"Biden BAD! Waahhhh!"

That's it. That's the report.

[–] Puppy@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (16 children)

Well it worked with Hillary in 2016 with "but her emails" and now they are trying that again with Biden "but his son's laptop". It just doesn't really have the same impact.

Also, in 2016, Trump still had the benefit of the doubt. I'm confident most people, especially independents, are not interested in another 2016-2020 filled with scandals, obvious lies and another White House turning door where nothing get accomplished.

That said, these countless investigations on the Bidens are actually proving me wrong. In 2019-2020, I was disappointed that Biden was the candidate because I thought since he had been in politics for 45+ years, he had to have been corrupted at some point. But Republicans are proving me wrong. The guy is squeaky clean and I find this really refreshing.

[–] DarkGamer@kbin.social 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

but her emails

Fun fact: the Republicans' email server was also hacked around the same time, but the contents of the server weren't released by the Russians like the DNC's emails were. I suspect the kompromat contained within was too good to release to the public. That would certainly explain a lot about their behaviors since then.

Also, regarding private email servers for, "unofficial communications," Republicans were using those too.

[–] Puppy@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Oh right, yeah, I forgot about that. Thanks for the reminder. So much corruption in the GOP it's hard to keep track.

It's funny because we KNOW for a fact, as per the Mueller report, that the GOP is 100% compromised and infiltrated by Russian spies. We just, uh, kinda went along with it and accepted it as the new normal.

[–] Kbin_space_program@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Just because part of the Democratic party has a major issue with corruption doesn't mean that I don't think the entire GOP is rotted through to its racist and fascist core.

Also thank you for summarizing a part of the Mueller report that I listened to as much as a as was publicly released(thank you fuckhead weasel Barr.)

[–] OldFartPhil@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

Biden was the poorest (least affluent?) senator for decades. If he was corrupt, he was very bad at it.

It's likely that Hunter was trading on his father's name (as do many children of famous/influential people). But Joe being corrupt just doesn't pass the smell test. And this time, I don't think the Republican smear campaign is going to work, President Biden isn't Hillary Clinton. I mean, it will work with some people, but they're already too deep into the GQP's alt-universe to be reachable.

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[–] jasondj@ttrpg.network 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

“I heard on the news that Congress wrote a report on how corrupt Biden is”

2 hours of Biden ad-homs

It doesn’t need to have anything more than a headline to work for those people.

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[–] whiskeypickle@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

GOP-bags: “We’re impossibly corrupt and use our corrupt kids to further our corruption, so you must, too! And we’ll prove it!” [find nothing]

Dark Brandon: “Ice cream doo-wop skippity-bop!" 😎

[–] qwertyqwertyqwerty@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I know that this is political backlash for Trump's impeachments, but I will never not support investigating people in high amounts of power, or the rich. Even if it has a 2% conviction rate, I would support it.

[–] Nougat@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

There are limited resources to undertake such investigations. Devoting those resources to investgating frivolous and unfounded accusations take away from the ability to investigate accusations with any real evidence.

Which is probably part of the point.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you think this will be a fair and honest investigation?

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[–] BobbyBandwidth@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If there is no evidence, then why do they speak so confidently and strongly?

[–] keeb420@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

An empty barrel makes the loudest noise.

[–] genoxidedev1@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Wow. I'd use that one in the future if my memory wasn't reset every 5 seWow. I'd use that one in the future if my memory wasn't reset every 5 secWow.

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

When you have the facts, pound the facts. When you have no facts, pound the table.

[–] DesertMagma@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

What was that word used over and over regarding other political investigations?

oh yeah - "nothingburger"

[–] Stinkywinks@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

There's plenty of stuff I don't agree on with him, but if I found out he put plastic in the glass bin, I'd be surprised.

[–] PKMKII@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The problem with the defense being offered by the White House and being repeated by most of the non-conservative press is that it rests on, there’s no direct tit-for-tat ergo no corruption. Problem is, when politico’s palms get greased (at least if they’re smart) it never goes direct, family members and close associates are always used as the go-betweens.

The real problem for Republicans here is that they’ve made their own bed and then have to lie in it with regards to DC corruption. They spent four years screaming “Nothingburger!” over every Trump scandal, which created a desensitization to scandal, and now they’re finding that they can’t switch people back to be scandalized.

Of course, the Democrats have their own issue in this in that they made Trump out to be this extreme abnormality from the DC status quo. If it turns out that it’s more like, Trump was just too stupid to do DC corruption in the usual discrete ways, it undermines that rationale for keeping Trump out of the White House.

[–] Eccitaze@yiffit.net 19 points 1 year ago

The problem with your equivocating is that the Republicans haven't even been able to turn up the usual "DC status quo" corruption. The absolute worst they've been able to find so far is that Hunter promised (but never actually delivered) access to his dad, lied on his taxes, likes his nose candy, and is hung like a horse. Nobody's scandalized over this because there's nothing to be scandalized over. Hunter isn't part of the administration, there's no evidence he ever discussed business with his dad, and he's getting punished for the crimes he's committed. The real scandal is how much he's been harassed over nothing, up to and including people sending out fucking revenge porn to their followers.

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