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The disapproval of Elon Musk is the top reason Tesla Model 3 owners are selling their electric vehicles and going for another brand, according to a new survey of 5,000 Model 3 owners.

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[–] CodingSquirrel@kbin.social 122 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If I already had a Tesla I don't know that I'd sell it because of him, but he was one of the major factors in me not even considering them when I was shopping for my EV. The other reasons being shoddy quality control, shitty practices, and dumb design decisions. All of which probably stem from him anyway.

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[–] BlackNo1@lemmy.world 121 points 1 year ago (2 children)

its funny how selling a car brand as “eco” friendly backfires when you’re a fascist cunt

[–] Clown_Tempura@lemmy.world 58 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It blows my mind that Elon would still be well-regarded as a visionary entrepreneur, accurately or not, if he had just kept his stupid fucking mouth shut.

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[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 105 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I will probably buy an EV in the next year but I have zero interest in a Tesla. Musk is the reason.

[–] theragu40@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah I think this is a bigger risk for Tesla than current owners selling.

I'm not in the market for a car right now but there's a decent chance that the next one I buy will be an EV. Up until maybe 2 years ago I'd have said a Tesla would have been top of the list for options. I don't really feel that way anymore, and Musks instability is the primary reason.

I think his antics will have a snowball effect on future sales.

[–] Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Teslas just don't drive better than any other EV. Yes, the first time i got in a tesla i was floored, but it was also the first time i ever sat in any EV. After seeing a handful of other EVs, i now realize tesla isn't anything special at all, all the EVs have that smooth electric motor feel.

They're going to be a medium sized car maker, like mercedes or bmw. They have no chance at selling more cars than toyota or gm to justify the insane market cap.

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[–] AzPsycho@lemmy.world 95 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I think it's more about how those types of buyers view the manufacturers reliability long term. The man is unhinged and has proven with Twitter that if given the chance he will willingly fuck over users. Imagine giving a bully the ability to limit your driving range or disabling your vehicle on a whim because he decides he doesn't like you or what your local govt says.

Not saying he would do it but he has proven repeatedly to be unstable enough to believe he could escape punishment for doing it.

[–] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 64 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Imagine giving a bully the ability to limit your driving range or disabling your vehicle on a whim because he decides he doesn't like you

He cancelled a reporter's Tesla Model X pre-order because he criticized Tesla on late deliveries on pre-orders.

[–] stabby_cicada@slrpnk.net 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Really emphasizes how vital "right to repair" is. If a Tesla didn't have proprietary software and centralized control over its cars it wouldn't matter how irrational Musk was. But Tesla owners have to trust Tesla to maintain both the hardware and software in their cars, which means buying a Tesla is a long-term commited relationship with that company. And same with Ford, GMC, every car company whose software is a black box - if you can't repair your own vehicle, you have to trust the management of the car company won't screw you over for fun and profit.

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[–] Oderus@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

I read that someone had upgraded their P60 to a P90 by getting a new battery, all official and from Tesla and months later they updated his firmware and locked out the extra 30Kwh because it wasn't the stock battery.

It's shit like that that keeps me from owning anything Elon related.

[–] dlok@lemmy.world 93 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I aspired to own a Tesla before musk started showing his colours now I would find it embarrassing

[–] USSEthernet@startrek.website 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Same, but after seeing the quality of everything else besides the software, no thanks. The electronics and infotainment seem to be the only thing they made well. Put that in a Honda or Toyota and I'd be happy.

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[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 83 points 1 year ago (3 children)
  1. make the whole brand about me as a person

  2. act like an insufferable prick

  3. ?????

  4. profit!

[–] infotainment@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All Elon had to do was stick to the rockets and cars!

But no, he has to go pick fights with random people online and espouse stupid talking points. It’s like a masterclass in killing your personal brand.

[–] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was off the Musk bandwagon when he called that rescuer in SE Asia a pedophile for not wanting to use his stupid submarine. Cancelled my cybertruck preorder.

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[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 75 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I used to want a Tesla... Now I don't. That's 60% Elon and 40% their poor build quality.

The second percentage should be higher. It's not, though. Elon is a very hateable person due to his low IQ, and astronomically high level of arrogance.

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[–] legion@lemmy.world 71 points 1 year ago

Decades of traditional automakers sabotaging the whole concept of EVs should make them the bad guys when it comes to EVs.

Elon has managed to make them the good guys.

[–] cassetti@kbin.social 70 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My partner needed to buy a new vehicle. A Tesla Model was easily in budget. But they opted not to buy one because they want zero affiliation with Musk or any connotations that she may endorse his behavior by owning one of his products.

[–] BloodForTheBloodGod@lemmy.ca 40 points 1 year ago (5 children)

FWIW, they're also terribly made cars that keep poorly.

[–] navi@lemmy.tespia.org 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Anecdotally I have to disagree.

I really enjoy our Model 3 and Model Y. After renting an ID.4 for a week in Norway I find that the Tesla setup is a lot more "no nonsense" than other OEMs.

For example the ID.4 has many "safety" features that help center the car in the land if it detects that you are leaving the road. In Norway that have very narrow roads and you often have to pull over to the shoulder (far past the lane edge) to let a car pass.

To turn those settings off in an ID.4 I had to dig through a menu and disable them every time I get into the car. Every. Time.

Tesla's UI experience is much more like a smart phone with persistence like one would expect. Like or hate the form factor, the infotainment on Tesla's are done about as well as you can with a giant touch screen in my opinion.

I really fucking loath Musk these days though and wish he would be ousted from Tesla.

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[–] wolfylow@lemmy.world 58 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Funny but when I see a Tesla, I now judge the owner. Never used to care one way or another but.

[–] Kikkertje@aussie.zone 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yep, I just think "pretentious wanker" whenever I see one.

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[–] Stupidmanager@lemmy.world 58 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Leased a tesla MS in 2017 because I knew 250mile battery was not going to be the max in 2020 and guessed 350mile was possible (i was right). Right around then Elon came out as a conspiracy twat, so I was more than happy to turn my car in when he went full right wing twat.

3 years on, I’m the proud owner of an ebike with a few thousand miles on it, created by a company not owned by a twat. My insurance is $50 a month and my uber rides fall far below anything I spent monthly on my insurance and lease payment ($1300 or so). Helps to work from home and live 5 miles from most places I need to go to or from the public transit.

Honestly, had he kept his insane ideas to himself I might still own that car or it’s newer version. I do miss it, but I just can’t support people like that. Also, 3 years on I don’t miss the car payments…

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[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 52 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's the risk when your brand is a "status symbol" and the company is closely linked with your personality.

Steve Jobs knew how to do this well. Elon is no Steve Jobs...

[–] lasagna@programming.dev 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Imagine Steve Jobs taking to Twitter calling all doctors pedos for trying to fix cancer with chemotherapy instead of fructose syrup.

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[–] CrypticFawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 52 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Ngl, I wouldn't be caught dead with a Tesla these days.

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[–] Knightfall@lemmy.ca 41 points 1 year ago

Since the seeing ordeal someone went through here in Canada and his Telsa, I wouldn't own one if given to me.

Water condensation dripping from the AC compressor on top of the batteries is just bad design and lack of foresight.

Transport Canada said that was awful and the reason for his faulty battery/batteries and Teslsa still said, nah you on your own.

Forget that noise.

[–] joklhops@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For Tesla, it's a bad time for the cult of personality to fall apart as more electric car competition comes out every year.

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[–] popemichael@lemmy.sdf.org 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

His last name is being used as a verb now from what I'm hearing

Its when you are delusionally confidet and try to do something but you mess it up so bad that it would have been better if you did NOTHING!

Friend 1: I'm the best cook ever! I'll make you the best meal!

Friend 1: Burns box mac and cheese

Friend 2: "You really Musked that up!"

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[–] jumpinjesus@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I was an early tesla fanboy and always wanted one, I finally have my finances in a place where a new car isn't an awful decision and went with the ID4 just so I didn't have to deal with that guy in any way shape or form.

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[–] MicroWave@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

Since Musk acquired Twitter, the Tesla CEO has started to voice his political and social views more frequently, as well as share controversial conspiracy theories.

This has resulted in a wave of people changing their minds about Musk, especially people on the left side of the American political spectrum. Many have suggested this has a negative impact on Tesla, which is intricately linked to Musk.

[–] whome@discuss.tchncs.de 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe Teslas will come with disguise kits, where you can switch the Tesla logo with a different brand. Just like Twitter created the option to hide the Twitter blue checkmark...

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[–] theodewere@kbin.social 22 points 1 year ago

i wouldn't buy a pack of cigarettes from that wannabe supervillain

[–] fne8w2ah@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

Everyone is realising what Phoney Stark really is.

[–] tenitchyfingers@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Isn’t it also the fact that everything he touches explodes and ends up being an unsafe product? I’d rather buy any other brand before buying Tesla, even regardless of his extremely unlikable personality and dumbass choices.

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[–] FarceMultiplier@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I took an Uber for the first time on Friday, which was also my first time in a Tesla. It didn't seem very comfortable. The driver also didn't signal very often.

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[–] Grant_M@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 year ago (6 children)
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[–] Mago@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Id anyone thinks Elon isnt an unfunny loser go watch his SNL episode again and be reminded.

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[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago (8 children)
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[–] salient_one@lemmy.villa-straylight.social 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They totally selected the most punchable face photo of his.

[–] jecxjo@midwest.social 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You say that as if there are face shots of him that aren't extremely punchable

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[–] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not surprising. Elmu did this to himself.

[–] thorbot@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When the cybertruck was first announced I was interested solely due to how unique it was, and for taking it out into the wilderness for camping with a giant battery. Now, I won't even consider even owning anything with the Tesla name. No way in hell.

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[–] jaschen@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago

I was in the market for a Model X P100D and decided against it when I heard the irregular door gaps. Added that Elon is a douche, I decided not to buy it.

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