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A neo-Nazi front group is demanding that New England secede and establish itself as a white nation. Decrying “enemies” that are “all around us” and vowing to defend racial “integrity,” the People’s Initiative of New England published a revolutionary manifesto on July 27 advocating “separation from the United States of America.”

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[–] ME5SENGER_24@lemm.ee 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It’s sad the times we’re living through. When I was growing up and getting smarter in school, I expected the rest of the world was too.

Yet, its 2023 and we still have Nazi’s out there thinking it’s okay to hate and people who think the world is flat.

[–] PeleSpirit@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

That's exactly how I feel, I thought the world would get better and better, not take a hopefully temporary nose dive. Now I think it's like a roller coaster that goes through fire or water on the bottom and we have to not let the world go too far down.

[–] hamandjam@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also thinking that somehow the NE states could be self-sustaining. Exactly what cureency would this country use? How would they feed their citizens? Do they think that population could survive on just cranberries and maple syrup? Would they expect to be allowed to stay on the electrical grid without paying for the infrastructure upkeep? Do they have refineries to process crude into useable fuels?

As usual, those who dont know history are doomed to repeat it and these dools obviously slept through history class and disnt pay attention to why the CSA was dooned to fall.

[–] KIM_JONG_JUICEBOX@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are countries that import things which they cannot produce domestically. Though not sure who would want to do business with such a country. Actually sadly probably a lot of US states would want to. Not like this would ever happen though lol.

[–] Texas_Hangover@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago

That was a lot of words, to say absolutely nothing. Are you a politician?

[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We probably outnumber these pussy bitches by 20 to 1. If it ever comes to blows.

[–] Acronymesis@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I like the cut of your jib!

[–] Acronymesis@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] orclev@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Honestly I kind of like the idea of these nutjobs all congregating in one place, and it sounds like they're even volunteering to bow out of US politics. I can't help but view this as an absolute win. If all the sane people also move out of that area we can maybe even take a page from the racists own playbook and just build a wall around them.

[–] PeleSpirit@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They're not going to hold themselves to anything they've said, don't believe them for a second that they'll bow out of politics or not do more and more domestic terrorism. This whole thing is to move the Overton Window about accepting them little by little as part of the normal world.

[–] orclev@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean it's a fair point, but I still think it's better to have them all out in the open in one place we can keep an eye on them rather than scattered throughout the country. The trick would be to string them along enough to make them think they're getting what they want without actually giving them anything meaningful.

[–] PeleSpirit@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

The trick would be to string them along enough to make them think they’re getting what they want without actually giving them anything meaningful.

Do you mean like telling them we'll give them an island but it's in Antarctica? That's fine.

[–] sighchedelic@artemis.camp 2 points 1 year ago

This sounds a lot like the State of Jefferson, which was/is supposed to be mad made up of southern Oregon and northern California. They've been talking about that idea since the early 1900's

[–] hawx@infosec.pub 11 points 1 year ago

Lmao trying that in New England is wild.

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

In New England of all places. Morons.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Idaho is leaking.

[–] Candelestine@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago

I mean, yeah, that's pretty much what they do, isn't it?

[–] teft@startrek.website 8 points 1 year ago

New England is mostly white not because they’re racist, it’s because they didn’t have slaves. These idiots are going to find out about the 20th Maine if they want to see how New Englanders treat racists.

[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Get ready for russia funding bullshit like this in the lead-up to the election. Fucking useful idiots.

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Ah, the free stater scum that flocked here in the early 2000s. These losers came mostly from the south and are slowly getting priced out of the area due to high property taxes (we have no state income tax, so property taxes are quite high).

These morons also seem to think that the US would just let it happen, and be open to trade with them.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 3 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Decrying “enemies” that are “all around us” and vowing to defend racial “integrity,” the People’s Initiative of New England published a revolutionary manifesto on July 27 advocating “separation from the United States of America.”

The initiative, he insists, seeks to “blackpill” Americans who’ve bought into “Tucker Carlson and the ‘great replacement’ conspiracy theory” and move them down the “pipeline” to full-fledged fascism.

“The only way you achieve a white ethnostate is the forced removal of, or mass killings of, people of color, right?” PINE is “using synonyms,” Goldsmith believes, “but still seeking to accomplish the same ethnic-cleansing goals of the neo-Nazi version of their brand.”

But NSC-131’s own literature, announcing the launch of PINE, explained the relationship between the two groups: “The Nationalist Social Club was conceived and implemented as the vanguard of our people,” reads a Telegram post from April.

NSC-131 has also recently amped up its public relations — seemingly in response to the dossier distributed by Task Force Butler that labeled them “a violent terrorist gang” that engages in “harassment against religious, racial, and ethnic minorities, the LGBTQIA+ community, and others deemed ‘enemies.’”

The group also insists: “We reject any and all false assertions that we are in any way a gang, criminal enterprise, or terrorist group.” (It also denigrates Task Force Butler founder Goldsmith as “Goldbrick,” blasting him as “a Jew who engages in deception for a living.”)


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[–] Sunroc@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fun fact, the symbol on their flag is sold on Etsy and Amazon Handmade! Artisanal hate paraphernalia!

[–] Acronymesis@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lol the fucking hate pizza? 😆

[–] Sunroc@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

It's called a Sonnenrad, Google sonnenrad jewelry to see all the businesses profiting from hate symbols!

[–] Desistance@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Isn't most of Pennsylvania and Massachusetts already there? So is Vermont, New Hampshire, and Connecticut. The hard part would be New York, New Jersey and specifically Philly.

[–] namelessdread@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

New England consists of Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Massachusetts, Connecticut, and Rhode Island.