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The Florida governor has struggled to break into Trump’s lead and his campaign has been burning through money.

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[–] SaphireFox@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Trump has a fandom. Yes as in a multitude of people across this nation who believe in a lore around Trump.

Desantis can't contend against that. There's no way he'll win the primary.

I wish he would beat Trump but that's not going to happen.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I just had a conversation with my dad about all this.

Trump incited an insurrection on jan6 because he lost an election. He’s really not going to not run as 3rd party if he looses.

Which … would be an absolutely beautiful dumpster fire to see.

[–] Captain_Patchy@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Trump being the republican candidate is a Constitutional Crisis. The 14th, section 3 CLEARLY states

#Section 3 Disqualification from Holding Office

No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof.
But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

So unless trump can get 2/3rds vote in both houses to re-qualify him, he is ineligible to hold any sworn office in the United States Of America.

The Constitution is not the bible. The right wing does not get to simply ignore the parts it dosen't like.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Go back and read the first section to the 14th.

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Due process would require being convicted in some form of trial- either an impeachment trial or criminal trial before the disqualification comes into play.

As much as i dislike trump, as much as I feel he’s entirely the wrong person for the job- and indeed is a traitor- due process is important here and he really needs to be convicted first.

Until that happens, it’s wishful thinking.

[–] Saneless@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

He totally would. The republican party losing without him is what he wants. He needs people to know that without him they're going to fail

Show, they failed constantly with him, but we're not dealing with someone who likes the truth

[–] donuts@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

sigh

...if only they could both lose...

I just hope he sticks around long enough in the primary for the entire thing to become a big shit-slinging fuck fest. Doubt DeSantis actually has the guts to point any criticisms in Trump's direction though. Trump will likely walk all over him and DeSantis will continue to tie himself into knots trying to dance around Trump.

[–] Kes@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 year ago

They will both lose if DeSantis wins the primary. Trump is banking on the government being too afraid to arrest a presidential candidate during election season to stay out of prison and is famously terrible at conceding elections. He will absolutely run as an independent and split the Republican vote between him and DeSantis if he loses the primary, making it even easier for Biden to win reelection