this post was submitted on 14 Jul 2023
96 points (96.2% liked)

Asklemmy

43948 readers
916 users here now

A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions

Search asklemmy ๐Ÿ”

If your post meets the following criteria, it's welcome here!

  1. Open-ended question
  2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions. Assume best intent and be excellent to each other.
  3. Not regarding using or support for Lemmy: context, see the list of support communities and tools for finding communities below
  4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members
  5. An actual topic of discussion

Looking for support?

Looking for a community?

~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[โ€“] JackbyDev@programming.dev 44 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

In Shrek 2 Pinocchio is trying to avoid lying by using double negatives. He knows where Shrek is. He says "I don't know where he's not." This is actually a lie (though his nose doesn't grow). If he knew where Shrek was he would know everywhere Shrek isn't. You can't just randomly throw negatives into a sentence and expect it to be a double negative.

Edit: It was Shrek the Third, not Shrek 2.

[โ€“] sunbytes@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I guess it depends on if the nose grows with untrue information, or lies.

Because if it's lies all he needs to do is THINK it's the truth and his nose won't grow.

If his nose grows because the information is not true, then this is one hell of a power. You could get him to theorise on the meaning of life.

[โ€“] JackbyDev@programming.dev 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The intent of the scene was clear. He's just trying to say a lot of double negatives and be confusing. It's not a moment of world building for the mechanics of Pinocchio's nose lol

Pinochio the philosophical scholar.

[โ€“] sunbytes@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

So I guess in that case part of the trick is confusing himself.

If he's not sure what he said, it's tough to rule it as a lie.

[โ€“] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

That would make an interesting story about a superhero with that power.