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[–] solrize@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Interesting though the article is from 2022. Germany has free education and a resurgent far right, so IDK what effect the educatioin there has had.

[–] Anivia@feddit.org 1 points 10 hours ago

Germany doesn't have free education, it just costs less than in the US. And unlike the US we actually have a school system divided into 3 different skill levels after 4th grade, and only the ones finishing the highest level of school education qualify to go to university. Today that's about 50% of school students, but it used to be way less

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 38 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

All of Europe has a resurgent far-right. And in many countries it's currently at ~20%, compared to 50% in the US. So there's one big difference.

In other countries the far-right is already governing the country, fully (Italy, Hungary) or partly, unlike in Germany (dodged a bullet this time but let's not get complacent).

There's also other aspects besides education that lead to far-right voting, like unemployment and general Strukturschwäche, i.e. lack of all kinds of infrastructure, prevalent in the Eastern part of Germany. Where most AfD voters come from.

And - though by no means comparable to the US - many European countries do have a problem with education.

[–] solrize@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I don't think the US is anywhere near 50% far right, despite electing Trump They were sick of the existing establishment and threw it out. That is, they voted on rebel vs establishment lines, without much regard to left vs right, if that makes sense.

[–] exploitedamerican@lemm.ee 9 points 1 day ago

The US elections(at very least the Presidential elections)are entirely rigged/ predetermined by corporate wall street influence. Corporations have been manipulating everything to their benefit for the last 6 decades. Every aspect of our political policy is already obviously corrupted by money its naive to believe this one thing isn't because democracy is some sacred aspect of American exceptionalism. Both parties are fascist there is no left political party in the usa the democratic party by the standards of the rest of the developed world Is a right wing party. To varying degrees both parties blatantly exhibit 13 of the 14 traits of fascism. The only one trait that they can claim plausible deniability in regards to is fraudulent elections but if we are 13/14ths the way there it is highly unlikely the last trait hasn’t already come to pass. In germany their highest constitutional court ruled that electronic voting is unconstitutional because it is impossible to differentiate between fraudulent results and legitimate ones for laypeople / anyone who isnt a cybersecurity expert or IT professional.

So really the idea that americans voted for this when its obvious the majority is very displeased about the state of our society and has been for years while conservatives tell us that social Media sites are left wing biased echo chambers but have to heavily moderate their conservative echo chambers to present the image that conservatism is popular in anyway its all just a ridiculous farce.

Plus there is the Princeton study done in the last 2 decades or so that determined the amount of influence anyone has on political policy making is directly tied to the amount of wealth you have with regular working people having a statistically meaningless near zero effect on policy writing regardless of how popular or unpopular that policy may be

[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 1 points 21 hours ago

There's a lot of propaganda against the stupid and not even the left wing party, which is only the leftmost of the two and not even really truly left-wing party, doesn't do anything to help people if it can help it so there's not that much of motivation on economic grounds. If both parties are funded by and ran by corporate Stooges and they just fuck you but you're racist you might as well just vote for the racist party that's advertising there now 20% more racist than last election

[–] Retropunk64@lemm.ee 1 points 22 hours ago

30% of Americans voted for Krasnov, and not even all Krasnov voters are far right, and thats even assuming he didnt cheat in any way. America is not 50% far right.

[–] vin@lemmynsfw.com 17 points 1 day ago

It's a result of growing inequality. Check out Gary's economics on YouTube. We need to tax wealth, not work.

[–] rustydrd@sh.itjust.works 3 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Even in Germany, far-right sentiments are pretty strongly related to people's level of education and economic opportunities.

[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Also the entire driver of the European far right is racism against immigrants. That's the entire motivation, which is why they're turning on their far right now that it's clear they're firmly are aligned with the Donald Trump-vladiator Putin axis of Evil. There are nationalists who want to be racist against Muslims they don't want to be annexed by Russia

[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 1 points 19 hours ago

Whereas the racists in the US are nationalists who want to be racist against whoever they want AND be annexed by Russia.

[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

Counterpoint: US doesn't have free education but far right pop up like a mushroom anyway.