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[–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 118 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Please remember that all this is noise to hide the great billionaire sacking of america. Smoke screen.

[–] Englishgrinn@lemmy.ca 7 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

I'm Canadian, I don't have the luxury of treating it like a lie. If we're wrong, and he means it, I lose my home and my way of life. I have to treat it as a serious threat. I have to try and make sure my nation is ready for the worst outcome imaginable - a fight where we can't win, we won't surrender and where everything I've ever been taught tells me to die for my country.

Old age, bomb or bullet - one way or the other, I'm dying a Canadian.

[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 1 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

I lose my home and my way of life

You could also lose your life if you're a military-aged male.

If it comes down to it, many of us will have to die for our country, and the end result would be the same when he takes over our country. I'm surprised that I'm actually surprised this the end result of him becoming president a second time. This has been going even worse than I had expected.

[–] cool@lemmings.world -5 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Bro calm down.

Life in canada is legit not that different from life in the USA. You guys would be blue af anyways so it'll mostly stay the same.

I swear, most of you people make it obvious how little you know about the US. It's as though all your ideas about it come from news articles that exist to make money off of your anger and misconceptions.

[–] Englishgrinn@lemmy.ca 5 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

I don't know a lot about America. I've only visited maybe a half dozen of your cities and maybe been on American soil maybe 10 times in my whole life. I'll tell you what I do know, please feel free to correct me if I make a mistake:

I know you don't have universal healthcare. I know you don't have a specific carve out against hate speech or calls for genocide in your first amendment. I know you have no limit on money in politics. I know you have 2 year election cycles instead of laws that prevent campaigning for more than 12 weeks before an election. I know you have school shootings. I know you have laws restricting abortion. I know you don't legally recognize the existence of Trans people, never mind their rights. I know we had legal gay marriage on the books 10 years before you did, and the way things are going we'll have it another 10 years after you overturn Obergefell. I know your banking system sucks, putting profits before people, and couldn't protect you from the 2008 crash as well as ours did because we have actual regulation. I know you don't have the same environmental protections. I know you want people to assimilate and "become" American in a melting pot instead of honoring everyone's right to embrace their history like our mosaic.

And I know you don't allow your conquered territories like Puerto Rico and Guam to vote, so who gives a shit how liberal we are?

I like America, and Americans, fine. But you were right there, a short drive away if I wanted to live like you. I don't. Why is it not a big deal that that choice might be taken from me? (edited this last line to not jump the gun. Not like fighting has started and the whole point of this was to show I wasn't overreacting)

[–] cool@lemmings.world -3 points 15 hours ago

So, you know everything that the news outlets have told you so they can make money off of your anger and sense of superiority.

When you were in the US, realistically how different was it from being in Canada? Be honest.

I can say that when i went to Canada as an American, it felt pretty much the exact fucking same. Lol.

I didn't get sick, though. I would absolutely support taking over Canada so you guys can help us get universal healthcare.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

You're the one being overly influenced by social media when you've been so brainwashed by extreme American exceptionalism that you don't even understand the concept of countries anymore.

Just think about what you'd do if a foreign military invaded your country. That's the same as what other countries will do.

We've heard Americans say "we'll be greeted as liberators" before. No you won't. You'll be greeted as a foreign military invading a country. Americans will die if you don't get with reality about this. There won't be an ocean between you and this particular war. There would be a probability that you'll become collateral damage in a drone strike.

[–] cool@lemmings.world -2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

You’re the one being overly influenced by social media when you’ve been so brainwashed by extreme American exceptionalism that you don’t even understand the concept of countries anymore.

Holy crap 😂

Cognitive dissonance is insane among you people. It's like you get physically distraught over the crowd being wrong because you can't rise above your herd mentality.

Anything to avoid admitting you let other people do your thinking for you.

[–] lumpybag@reddthat.com 1 points 13 hours ago

What are you going on about? Are you saying the word of the president is worthless and therefore should be ignored? It’s just a joke?

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 53 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I genuinely thinks he also wants to annex canada though

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago

It’s very interesting that he is criminalizing climate change, while seeking to take over the lands that would benefit from climate change.

There’s another fella across the ocean that is accelerating climate change because it will benefit his country.

[–] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

If he makes Canada a state, he loses control of Congress.

He would never do that.

[–] WaterFoul@lemmy.world 6 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

He would never let Canadians vote. He may never let Americans vote again.

[–] cool@lemmings.world -4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Are you really delusional enough to believe this?

Is this really how far gone you people are on these forums?

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Are you so delusional with American exceptionalism that you don't think it's possible for democracy to end in US.

You're going down the exact same path that many other countries have. In all likelihood there will still be elections in the US as there are in Russia. But you should expect the elections in to be rigged in the same way as they are in Russia.

He's already convinced a lot of people that the elections are already rigged, so it's likely they will "fix" what he's called a rigged system.

Media control is already well underway, same as Putin did.

[–] cool@lemmings.world -3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

You're twisting your brain into knots to justify all the anti-american propaganda you've been fed by news outlets who profit off of your anger.

Come to the United States and see how out of touch you are with reality.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 4 points 13 hours ago

Is your brain so twisted you don't see the President of the USA saying he wants to annex my country?

That's real, it's not propaganda. He said it. I'm looking at the words of the of the President of the USA, what are you looking at? Fox News?

And the only scenario where I'll be going to the US is if there is a war, and I'd only be going there to blow shit up. I don't give a shit about how nice you think your country is, if your president betrays us (as he's constantly saying he wants to do) I'll be doing everything in my power to destroy your nice comfortable life. That's what war means and you need to start looking at this for what it is. This may be a game for you, but it's our country for us. We will defend our country through every means available to us.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago

Or he could go the Puerto Rico route.

[–] HurlingDurling@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Remember Greenland... He seems like he forgot now.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 3 points 15 hours ago

Two days ago he had the head of NATO with him in the Betrayal Room of the Oval Office and he talked about annexing Greenland.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/remarks/2025/03/remarks-by-president-trump-and-nato-secretary-general-mark-rutte-before-bilateral-meeting/

The press was there (of course) so there's video of it, not as shouty as the Ukraine betrayal, but Trump is still busy with betraying every single ally of the US.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 day ago

He's still saying he wants to invade Greenland and Panama.

[–] rocmal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 38 points 1 day ago

Great take. I agree. We know this from Project 2025. Keep an eye on it but don't let it distract. Trump and cronies are using a strategy coined flood the zone to prevent coordinated opposition against them in politics and media.

[–] turnip@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Have these random programs actually helped Americans?

To my naive view, would America not he better served with a far more progressive tax system, in lieu of spending these large sums to foreign countries and various agencies that squander what could be given to the poor?

In what world is giving the poor more money directly not he an effective means of raising their standard of living, which should be the main point of a progressive government?

[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago

Maybe, but that’s not what he’s doing. He’s raising taxes on the poor while cutting social programs and not giving anyone but billionaires money.

[–] WaterFoul@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

They are in the process of transitioning to a government that does not care about the people and does not provide for them. People here aren't going to get any benefit. Just like with the Empire, the only ones who reap any benefits are the Oligarchs.

[–] turnip@sh.itjust.works 1 points 15 hours ago

Given the crazy spending how much do you feel in dollar value the low end workers would be getting per year?

They don't get much money back in taxes, no universal healthcare, I don't think child care is covered. So what are they getting for all the spending?