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Should France and the UK share their nuclear weapons with the rest of Europe?

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[–] NewDay@feddit.org 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The nazis would not have 20% if we have nuclear weapons. Putin uses cyber war to threatening and scaring the German population. The Germans are scared of being one of Putins target. This anxiety would not be there if we had these weapons. Putin knows he cannot use his nuclear weapons against countries which also own nuclear weapons. Unfortunately, the German population is not really the brightest on earth, because they fell into Putins narrative.

[–] federalreverse@feddit.org 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Putin's internet-based propaganda runs in most Western countries, no matter whether they have a nuclear arsenal or not. They were/are very successful in the US, the country with the largest nuclear arsenal of them all. Fear of Russian nuclear attacks is only a small part of it.

Besides, Germany does have US nuclear weapons stationed within its borders, and until November last year, they would have been at the ready. Yet, Putinophilia was trending nonetheless.

[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's a hot take the nazis are so successful again out of fear of putin. Living in Germany, I don't get the impression Putin scares anyone here at all. We're worried about our nation friends who share a border with russia and belarus and that's the full extend of Putins influence on our emotions.

I think the nazis reached 20% because they are actually nazis. They offer stupid poppulist impossible solutions for common or often entirely perceived as common problems. They managed to unite a big base using social media, making it okay to come out as a nazi again, which before would have got you shunned or even beaten up. Now, all that happens is a few left protesters, who will get beaten by the police, confirming it's now better to be a nazi.

[–] NewDay@feddit.org 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Living in Germany, I don't get the impression Putin scares anyone here at all.

That is clearly wrong to be honest.

"Ich habe große Angst vor einem Krieg!" Das antworten 39 Prozent der Befragten des ZDF-Politbarometers im November 2023 auf die Frage, ob sie in Sorge sind vor einem militärischen Konflikt in Europa mit Beteiligung der Bundeswehr. Jeder zwölfte Befragte empfindet sogar "sehr große Sorge".

https://www.zdf.de/nachrichten/politik/deutschland/politbarometer-krieg-israel-ukraine-proteste-100.html

Russlands Angriffskrieg in der Ukraine macht vielen Millionen Menschen in Deutschland Angst vor einem Dritten Weltkrieg. Wie eine Forsa-Umfrage vom Montag im Auftrag von RTL und ntv ergab, befürchten 69 Prozent sogar, dass die Nato in den Konflikt hineingezogen wird, weil der russische Präsident Wladimir Putin ein Mitglied des westlichen Verteidigungsbündnisses angreifen könnte

https://www.rnd.de/politik/ukraine-angst-vor-drittem-weltkrieg-laut-umfrage-in-deutschland-hoch-PCCADTOID47DSMIGECTZ5BMPZM.html

In einer Umfrage des Markt- und Sozialforschungsinstitut INSA im Auftrag der Bild, gaben 46 Prozent der Befragten an, dass ihnen ein möglicher Russland-Angriff auf Deutschland Sorgen mache. Dabei schätzten Linken-Wähler und CDU-Wähler die Kriegsgefahr höher ein als Sympathisanten der neu gegründeten Wagenknecht-Partei und der AfD.

https://www.fr.de/verbraucher/vorraete-an-umfrage-schock-aus-angst-vor-putin-legen-immer-mehr-deutsche-zr-92807240.html

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Being worried about war is a different thing than worrying about losing.

[–] NewDay@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago

I did not say that the German population is scared to lose the war.