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Yes, this was my point, the idea of a gesture for someone's penis size is not feminist, it is derogatory/toxic masculinity.
That is called a "No true Scotsman" fallacy.
It is a feminist action because a large swathe of South Korean feminists openly adopted it as a shibboleth, whether it is consistent with the principles of your preferred brand of feminism is irrelevant.
It'd be the same as saying protesting in front of abortion clinics in the US isn't Christian (except Christianity has explicit rules so the comparison isn't 1:1) when most if not all protesters would cite their religion as their motivation.
I guess its feminist in the sense that a south korean feminist community uses it, but it's not consistent with the ideology of feminism. It's like saying blocking wind turbine construction and increasing prison sentences are liberal because the Swedish Liberal party does those things.
If we consider the struggle for feminism in the US/Europe to be the same as the South Korean struggle for feminism, then sure, we can say that it is a feminist hand-gesture. But the situation in both cultures are completely different, and I'm not sure if American/European feminists would like to be associated with the hand gesture.
I don't know, I guess in the context of a south korean article it makes sense, but I was just feeliing that it should be clearer that it is a South Korean gesture. It's honestly a moot point and we're debating over nothing.