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We've known for years that the owner is a lying, creepy, out of touch dipshit and that it's a very flawed car and the company will cut costs to save money on safety items, every time.

Electric vehicles with drive assist are awesome and are the future, but there are alternatives, especially if you have money, which a lot of Tesla customers do. And they're not particularly well built; how many of these do you think will be on the road 20 years from now? And now we've seen how Elaine runs their companies, why the hell would anybody put their trust in their products?

If you've bought a Tesla in the last five or so years, you're a damn goober in my eyes. That's my hot take, prepared for being called poor and other sodium, tear filled comments from fools whose opinions don't matter. You are the hardcore, foaming at the mouth Segway fan from the 2000s, have at me lol.

Update: The teary eyed, sweaty fingered responses to this are predictably hilarious. I've been called a guy that eats 4 pizzas a week in another old thread because of this, a cunt, a tool, a douche, a couple people spent their energy to tell me they don't understand me spending my energy posting this, some people are telling me something about Tesla or Elaine living in my head rent free. All genuinely pathetic responses, so GG lol. Cheers.

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[–] synapse1278@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Electric vehicles with drive assist are awesome and are the future

If you mean future as in save the environment, then I disagree. Individual transport as a mainstream mean of transportation is the problem. What we need to save ourselves is to replace 95% of cars with public transports and bicycles, and then the 5% remaining can be EVs if you want. The reality of EVs is they shift the carbon footprint from driving to manufacturing, and the emission from local to the power plants (depending on the production means where you live), but the total reduction is not nearly enough.

[–] Lazz45@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

Also, many developed countries tout EVs as "AMAZING" for the environment. Meanwhile that is solely because none of the lithium mining and processing occurs in their nice countries. While they get their nice "green" batteries, China and South American countries destroy their environment strip mining and processing lithium ore. That shit is TERRIBLE for the environment, and there is no economic incentive to clean up the process. The news, media, politicians, CEOs, etc. never speak about this because it paints the reality of the picture. You're shifting the carbon footprint to something else, not really even reducing it.

I actually am very interested in the new solid state batteries Toyota is talking about. Using polymer based batteries can allow for longer lasting, less impactful energy storage to help make electric/H-fuel cell cars genuinely green/a great step from combustion vehicles

[–] RufusFirefly@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Even if EV's did reduce the world's carbon footprint, it still would not have that big an effect overall

[–] Hipervan@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] WheeGeetheCat@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

But also get real that you aren't going to cut fuel consumption if you continue to create a system that regularly sees 4 seater 3 ton machines, which require paved roads, used to move a single person around. That society isn't making it to the future. it can change or go extinct.

[–] RufusFirefly@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I know but even if everybody begins to approach it with common sense rather than political posturing, we are probably going to run out of time. I'm in my 60s and don't have any kids or grandkids but I still feel pretty badly for future generations.

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Exactly. It will take a concerted effort by essentially everyone on the planet to drive ICEs less, eat less meat, air condition their home to less extreme temperatures, buy fewer electronic devices, and buy fewer products packaged in plastics in order to drive down carbon emissions.

[–] synapse1278@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

To me it seems that governments insentivizing for EVs and photo-voltaic purchases, is plain and simple green washing. It is pushing the responsibility on the shoulders of citizens (you should recycle, you should save water, you should produce your own green energy) instead of doing meaningful reforms and public investments that could have a real impact.

[–] MisterD@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Heat pumps should be required for all new buildings. With 300-500% efficiency and no CO2 make it a no brainer. FYI: yes the heat AND cool. Yes they work at -15 C (some at -25 C)