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Wildebeest - A cloudflare based Fediverse server (github.com)
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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/3045

Now this is interesting. A Fediverse platform developed by Cloudflare that inherently runs on Cloudflare without needing dedicated infrastructure.

The code is open source yet the platform itself is inherently proprietary. It's going to be very interesting how this unfolds given how unpopular Cloudflare is with many Fediverse admins

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[–] anova@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I'm not a fediverse admin, but I like to think that if I was I would find a way to automatically defederate with these cloudflare instances. Open source code doesn't mean anything if it can only run on proprietary infrastructure.

More abstractly, I don't feel like there's inherently anything wrong with the sort of thing, but the fact that Cloudflare Corporation in particular is doing this rubs me the wrong way

[–] bunkrra@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

fediverse as movement and ideology <> cloudflare is not going together, u right.

[–] raucao@kosmos.social 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

@anova Why would you ban yourself from interacting with someone who voluntarily chooses provider X or Y or Z for anything? That's their choice, not yours.

Half the fediverse already runs on servers provided by only 3 companies. If anything, adding more to the mix, both implementations and hosting providers, is healthy for a decentralized ecosystem.

[–] anova@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Why would you ban yourself from interacting with someone who voluntarily chooses provider X or Y or Z for anything?

Because I'm petty

Half the fediverse already runs on servers provided by only 3 companies

I also don't know those three companies off the top of my head, and while I definitely believe you, I can't imagine they are anywhere near as big as Cloudflare. If you're talking about cloud service providers, I'd also consider running an instance that ignores say, AWS instances, but I think that's a bit different since they don't specifically provide "activitypub" services afaik. With Cloudflare, it's much more explicit

[–] autumn@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

is it really half? and which three companies?

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Likely Hetzner, Netcup and OVH. Large relatively cheap VPS providers in Europe.

I remember reading an article some time ago about someone actually investigating that and there was also some large US hoster in the mix. but those few made up 80-90% of the fediverse instances.

Edit: found it: https://bitkeks.eu/blog/2020/03/underlying-problem-fediverse-decentralised-platforms.html

[–] autumn@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

ah, i misread your initial post. i thought you meant half of all users were hosted by a few instances. thanks for that article!