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[–] ninjabard@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago (3 children)

You mean the solider who saw what happens when a list of everyone who is considered "other" is ordered and maintained by a government? All because, Tony "I am a gift to God" Stark and Bruce "Couldn't Say No" Banner created a nigh unstoppable police force with no oversight?

[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 3 days ago (3 children)

IMO, you're not wrong, but Magneto is the better portrayal.

Magneto was right all along about the persecution of mutants. Tony Stark and Captain America disagreed on a "who watches the Watchmen" level in the movies.

Stark thought that heroes had too much power to act without the approval of some higher authority, and the Captain believed that they should be able to act when and where they could without needing permission in order to do the most good. Magneto looked at the number he had tattooed on his wrist as a child in the camps and said, "Never again."

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 days ago

Magneto looked at the number he had tattooed on his wrist as a child in the camps and said, “Never again.”

Magneto is one of the posterboys of the swerve.

[–] electric@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

But super hero movies have no subtlety!!!

[–] Naia_Elwyn@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Tony also had the issue that he felt guilty over his failed plan to protect the world that was pretty authoritarian.

I don't think cap would have been against all oversight, but the one presented was very narrow minded and slow to act until more drastic decisions had to be made, like nuking New York.

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

TIL cops are the same thing as jews in the holocaust because their departments have a payroll

.world

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I don't understand your comment.

[–] brown567@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Captain America was alive for WWII

Germany created a registry for certain people and it didn't end well for said people

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Wow... is that your full understanding of Nazi Germany?

The so-called US also created "a registry" for certain people, which inspired Germany for their Nurenberg race-laws.

Captain America was fighting for the US while Jim Crow was active. He probably went to school with people who found Hitler's ideas great.

[–] brown567@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's far from my only understanding of it, it's just the first thing that comes to mind for what might make him averse to a list of "others" being created

He probably would have also seen what happened with the US's registry of Japanese people, which didn't go great for them either

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 days ago

I think you're confusing the avengers with the x men storylines.

In civil war, Cap refused to have an accountability program for the avengers because he had the hots for Bucky.