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Crackdown on open source E2EE apps in India (lemmy.world)

submitted 5 days ago by Ritsu4Life@lemmy.world to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

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Is it just me, or the government of India is cracking down of all end to end encryption apps like signal and element.

Cause I guy who works for the police came to my house and asked whether I use signal and element

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[–] toastal@lemmy.ml 19 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Host your own XMPP node outside the country’s jurisdiction, turn on E2EE if it weirdly wasn’t on by default, & don’t trust the big centralized servers they could easily ban. Apparently everyone wants to dismiss XMPP since you can disable the E2EE (since it is a generic protocol for lots of stuff) despite encryption being on by default on every modern client—so there is your deniability 🙃 Unlike Matrix, the average user can afford to run it on a toaster too.

[–] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 4 points 4 days ago (3 children)

What about Simplex? About equally easy to host and doesn't even give an option to not encrypt. I use both.

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I think the above poster is saying the ability to not be E2EE gives plausible deniability, and therefore is a feature, not a bug, in this instance.

[–] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I thought the opposite: "well I like the app, I just can't use it unencrypted and not even sure what encryption is!"

[–] toastal@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

It’s still quite immature & I have my reservations that a big Haskell project can be maintained for the long-term seeing a lot of Haskell failings even in the short-term. It is a promising idea, but I am not ready yet to try it.

[–] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 3 points 4 days ago

fair

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 1 points 4 days ago

Not very easy. No sync across devices is a killer.