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Hi,

I’m trying to find a way to have my iPhone’s photos be automatically (or even manually) backed up/synced with my home server.

I heard about photo prism here and got it up and running, however I could not find a free app that lets you sync. Photo sync is their main recommendation and it puts high quality photo backup behind premium.

Is there any solution that lets you backup your photos through home wifi?

Thanks in advance.

Edit: thanks to the suggestions, I found this handy chart listing many and comparing them: https://meichthys.github.io/foss_photo_libraries/

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[–] oldfart@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nextcloud has so many bugs when you store a lot of files, and photos on a phone accumulate to a big number. Both their Android app and server doesn't deal with a few years' worth of photos.

[–] ilmagico@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I have years worth of photos backed up from my phone (android) on Nextcloud, it's working pretty well... but it matters how you set up the auto upload and a few other things, and I'mnot claiming it's without issues.

For example, I set it to move files into Nextcloud's folder after uploading, so they appear as locally synced, and can be deleted to free up space if needed (maybe even automatically, not sure). Also, I set it to also upload existing files, because since they get moved, anything that's still there clearly needs to be uploaded.

There are a few issues viewing media from the app, sometimes, but I use the Memories app :)

I've been meaning to try immich, looks pretty good, but I use Nextcloud for much more than just photos, so I'd have to keep both and have them sync somehow, and I'm not sure how to do that.

[–] InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Yea only times I've had issues is if I run out of space allocated to the container that runs it.
I currently have 16GB of phone uploads and 540G overall, it works fine

[–] oldfart@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago (3 children)

And you don't have your notification bar on the phone full of upload errors? Nextcloud doesn't open 15 seconds on the computer? Can you get to older photos in under an hour, while Nextcloud slowly loads one thumbnail per second?

It is really unbeleviable how there are some people for whom Nextcloud just works, and the rest of us.

I gave up on my personal self-hosted instance a long ago, and at work we use commercially hosted Nextcloud and have to get a new account ~yearly because it slows down like Windows 95 when data accumulates.

[–] ilmagico@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago

And you don't have your notification bar on the phone full of upload errors?

I get a bunch of upload errors for photos that I delete or move before nextcloud has a chance to upload them, those are safe to ignore. Not sure which errors you're getting...

Can you get to older photos in under an hour, while Nextcloud slowly loads one thumbnail per second?

Forget about the plain nextcloud photos app, use the Memories app (incl. the android app).

Not as good as immich, from what I understand, but if you already have nextcloud, or need more than just photos, it works well.

It is really unbeleviable how there are some people for whom Nextcloud just works, and the rest of us.

It's definitely not perfect, but since I was able to set it up to work well for me, I'm keeping it, at least until I have time to install immich and figure out how to sync the two (and maybe get a more powerful server to use its ML features). I'm currently running it off of a decade old chromebox ...

[–] oldfart@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

And, to offer something positive too: I like Photoprism, it's very fast, browsing old photos just works with no extra delay, there's search by date, location, tags, even face detection.

[–] InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works 1 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

Legit have had none of these issues.
I do get a notification once in a while if I modify a picture fast enough, like a quick crop and it's still uploading. Like snap pic and edit within the same 5 seconds or so.
Basically just a: "there are multiple versions of the same file (which is true), which one do you wanna keep".

Then again mine is running on a pretty beefy server which might hide issues rooted in performance.
I remember it being hell when I was running it on a RPi.

[–] oldfart@lemm.ee 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I had it on a beefy server too. Glad that it works for you, every nextcloud thread on social media has a discussion like ours.

[–] InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Yea, it's not the first time I've seen this discussion either.
I don't wanna seem like I'm not believing you or belittling your experience, I just find it weird that we (we, users, as a whole, not just you and I) have such wildly different experiences with it.

As is, I have a vastly better experience with my own nextcloud than with corporate's onedrive, with more stuff on mine.

Wish I knew why it's so inconsistent.
Even though my nextcloud experience is fine, I know plenty of people with the opposite.

[–] oldfart@lemm.ee 2 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

I wish that too. I've profiled the server code and there was no simple to identify bottleneck. I profiled the android app when it was displaying Force Close / Wait modal every few minutes when in background, and found a very troublesome database query which selected all files without pagination. Adding pagination fixed that force close problem but the app was still too slow to be usable.

And at the time when I was doing all this, of course there were reports of people who had more data than i did and it was working fine for them.